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2014/08/08 12:24:03 (permalink)

[Solved] Sudden New Latency in Project

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I have a project with lots of VI's that has been behaving fine.  Loaded up today and the VI's have lots of latency all of a sudden.  I froze most of them but did not help much.  Seems to just be this project.  Any thoughts?

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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 12:28:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Steve_Karl 2014/08/08 14:28:50
    If the latency goes away after hitting "E" (the shortcut to disable effects) then it is latency induced by plug-ins like LP-64 EQ, LP-64 MultiBand, TS-64 and Perfect Space.
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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 13:39:59 (permalink)
    That did indeed take away the latency.  I'll see if I can isolate from here.
     
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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 16:30:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2014/08/08 23:46:04
    Start your search with processors that have a look-ahead time, like limiters and compressors.

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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 17:12:16 (permalink)
    Copy that Craig.  Much appreciated.

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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 17:33:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby doncolga 2014/08/08 23:45:58
    Convoluted reverbs, like Perfect Space also induce latency.
     
    Perhaps you could list all of the plugins loaded into this project?
     
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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 21:45:10 (permalink)
    Certainly
    17 VI's:  Raputure, Dimension Pro, Stylus RMX, Trilian, PianoTeq
    Project was running fine with very low latency with all these on for the past several days.  Latency occurred today so I froze most all of them.  Latency still here.  This happens every now and then and rebooting the machine always fixes it, but not this time.
    Stereo bus:
    Prochannel compressor and EQ
    Ozone 4 with all modules except stereo imaging.  (no improvement when off)
    K Meter (no improvement when off)
    Reverb bus:
    Pantheon  (no improvement when off)
    Tracks:
    About five tracks with Prochannel Compressor and EQ (no improvement when off)
     
    When I press "E" to bypass plugins, latency goes away.
     
    I know there are a few VI's I'm not actually using, so I'll go through and pull those out.
    post edited by doncolga - 2014/08/08 22:09:25

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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 22:19:48 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby doncolga 2014/08/08 23:45:49
    Did you turn the audio engine off and on after turning off a plug-in? This is needed for SONAR to recalculate the PDC. I would start by turning off Ozone again and toggle the audio engine. I would imagine there is some mention about latency in the Ozone docs.
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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/08 23:52:03 (permalink)
    You guys are the beez neez!  I just toggled the engine and that helped alot.  Disabled Ozone and toggled engine and no latency.  Thanks guys!
     
    By the way...what is PDC?
     
    EDIT:  I found it.  Plugin Delay Compensation

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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/09 07:59:24 (permalink)
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    Did you turn the audio engine off and on after turning off a plug-in? This is needed for SONAR to recalculate the PDC. I would start by turning off Ozone again and toggle the audio engine. I would imagine there is some mention about latency in the Ozone docs.

    Having been on a similar quest many times in the past, I never realized this and always went with the "e" shortcut. Thanks, Scook, that's a vital piece of information.

    EDIT:
    I have to wonder why this is the case though, since PDC works automatically upon inserting or un-bypassing a plug.
    post edited by Sanderxpander - 2014/08/09 08:29:16
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    Re: Sudden New Latency in Project 2014/08/12 08:40:18 (permalink)
    +1 of restarting the Audio Engine. Sonar has a nasty habit of randomly "hanging on" to the plug-in states, and, at times, when you're using a plug-in that induces noise, it will continue to for days after you stop playback. Is there an .ini setting to tell Sonar to stop the Audio Engine after playback?

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