(Solved - Update) focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback

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(Solved - Update) focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback

i just got the 6i6 and i love how it sounds, much more perceived depth between me and the speakers, great plug-ins...


that said, i have noticed that during playback, the music sometimes will dropout for a nano, then resume. it's almost as if it runs out of breath, then resumes. the dropout is barely noticeable, just at the threshold of hearing it, but it is there. 
 
i'm using the focusrite 2.1.5 usb driver, and adjusting buffers from 128 upward doesn't make a difference. nor does upping sonar's buffers. this is playback only. it occurs outside of sonar as well. if i do audible mix and hear a glitch, that glitch is not written to the export. i checked carefully in sound forge, no gaps at all, yet playback in sf may have a glitch somewhere else, but when i play it again the glitch is not there and may occur down the line.
 
i'm going to try the wasapi driver today, but other than that i'm out of ideas. any other 6i6 users see this? have a fix?
 
 
post edited by dlion16 - 2017/04/09 18:44:34

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    chuckebaby
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 15:34:01 (permalink)
    Def have it plugged in to a USB 2 port ? I know they will work in USB 3 but not consistently.
    Im using the latest drivers from Focusrite on my 18I8 and all is good here. don't think its a driver problem. (although a corrupt driver I wouldn't rule out.)
    possibly a bad port or bad cable ?
    What were using before ? ASIO4ALL ? if that's the case remove it.
     
    PS- there is a firmware update for the 2G. should have downloaded when you plugged it in.
     
     

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 15:44:54 (permalink)
    I had an 18i20, had to return it much to my dismay it just would not work as advertised on my system. I would get glitches that I could set my watch to, plus random times where SONAR would lose connectivity with the device and I would then get the squeal of death through my speakers....not fun. It was possible I got a bad unit, but I think it was more driver/firmware.
     
    One thing I can tell you is make sure you do the following:
     
    USB 2.0 vs. 3.0: It shouldn't matter but it does, you will get better results with 2.0
     
    Bandwith: These Focusrite usb devices are bandwith hogs. Make sure the 6i6 is plugged into a usb port that has its own root hub with no other devices connected. Too often if it shares bandwith with other devices you will get glitches, hiccups in the audio etc. Also, if this is a desktop, sometimes the usb ports don't have a hub, that data is handled by the chipset which can also cause things to bottle neck. 
     
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 16:06:37 (permalink)
    yes, chuck, usb2 port. before was m-audio firewire 1814. should i also uninstall the 1394 driver? how do i check the firmware version?
     
    emwhy, how do i check to see if the usb port has its own root hub?
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 16:07:16 (permalink)
    I personally got a defective unit from Focusrite once (One mic pres/input was dead). They sent me a brand new unit.
    I worked with them over the phone vs. bring it back to guitar center where I bought it.
    it was a few days after the return policy expired but they were cool enough to let me bring the unit back and exchange it for a new one that  they shipped out to GC. It was perfect.
     
    That was my old Focusrite. I have had good luck with these units other wise so they have been getting my business for years now because they update drivers, build units like a tank (much along the lines of Mackie's old boards) and besides this one problem have been rock solid. I don't buy in to the "Award winning Mic pres'" this is a selling point. But what I do buy in to is quality and sound. They are great sounding units. By that I even mean the award winning Mic Pres' as well.

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 17:32:42 (permalink)
    emwhy, how do i check to see if the usb port has its own root hub?
     
    You will have to go into Device Manager to do this, find all the usb devices and see how they are listed. When the Focusrite shows up, it should tell you what else is on a specific port.
     
    Chuckebaby, although I gave up on my unit, their support was great, both via email and over the phone. I also don't buy the whole mic pre thing, but I'm lucky to have some really good external pres so I only need an audio capture device for line input.
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 18:43:34 (permalink)
    Power fluctuation?
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 19:24:41 (permalink)
    dlion16 I see from your system specs that you have multiple usb drives. Just for the heck of it, try unplugging all the usb stuff you don't readily need and see if things improve. also, what is your power profile and have you disabled USB Selected Suspend setting? If not your PC may be doing power saving to your usb ports.
     
     
     
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 19:56:41 (permalink)
    Just a long shot,,, there are certain plug ins that in demo mode behave that way. 
     
    But I doubt this is a driver issue. 
     
    Check with Latency monitor to see if there are background apps using the CPU. 
     
    I would also check cables. 
     
    I would test it by playing a WAVE file via Media player, or better yet play a wave file of a pure sine wave ( test tone)  which you can download free. 

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 20:09:18 (permalink)
    Focusrite tech support rocks! Chatted with nick, went through the drill, long story short, he sent me a link to a beta driver, works flawlessly, not one glitch in sonar or sound forge.  Case closed. Bookem' dano… always wanted to say that. 
    Thanks, guys. 

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 20:27:08 (permalink)
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    Focusrite tech support rocks! Chatted with nick


    I know right. I said the same thing. I believe it was Brandon who helped me.
    A lot can be said for good support. it brings buyers back. Glad its all sorted Dlion

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/23 22:03:10 (permalink)
    I've had several dealings with Focusrite support when I had a Saffire Pro 40.  The responses were fast and either solved the problem or offered helpful suggestions. 
     
    When I wanted a backup recording interface unit, I went with a Focusrite (6i6 2nd gen).

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/24 00:57:50 (permalink)
    Do you know the driver version he sent you? was it 4.26? I tried that one with no luck just curious.
     
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/24 01:02:16 (permalink)
    About that USB 2 versus 3 tip, my new 18i20 2nd gen. was plugged into USB 3.  I plugged it into USB 2 on top of my case, as there is no USB 2 port on the back of the PC, only 3.  Even after rebooting it didn't work at all!  I couldn't get it to lock the digital link. 
     
    When I went back to the USB 3 port, all was fine.  Surprise...
     
     

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/03/24 01:44:26 (permalink)
    Thanks, chuck. Emwhy, it is 4.26. Much better than the  previous. I'll do more testing tomorrow. 

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/09 18:58:30 (permalink)
    I spoke too soon, yet… 
    The beta driver helped, glitches were fewer, but still there.
    Another round of deep chat with focusrite techs, after making the suggested bios changes, again much improved.
    I did some research, others had issues with lan adapters. I had disabled in devman, now I also disabled in bios. Again, much improved. 
    Then I did the unthinkable, after once again seeing ms usb 1.0 and 2.0 driver issues in latencymon, I switched from a usb 2 port to usb 3. 
    Bingo, haven't had a glitch in 3 days. Those old ms usb drivers from 2006, the latest version available, could not be updated, all my usb 3 drivers were. Latest asus usb 3 drivers seem to have no problem with a usb 2 device… 

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/09 21:26:11 (permalink)
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    yes, chuck, usb2 port. before was m-audio firewire 1814. should i also uninstall the 1394 driver? how do i check the firmware version?
     
    emwhy, how do i check to see if the usb port has its own root hub?
     
    thanks.


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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/09 22:42:27 (permalink)
    Thanks, soundwise, but I think not using a usb 2 port made the difference, contrary to conventional wisdom. The asus usb 3 driver and ports are friendly to usb 2 devices, at least this one. And turning the wired lan port off in bios helped too… 

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 00:10:22 (permalink)
    I used mine on a pcie card with 2 USB 3.0 ports. Glitch free and I was able to notice a dip in overall CPU usage plus it was ultra stable with smaller buffer settings. Gotta get these things on their own ports and hubs and not have them sharing USB bandwith.
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 01:27:36 (permalink)
    Disabling LAN in BIOS seems very disruptive if you ever want to use that computer on line. Also seems curious that you had so many interim steps that helped but did not quite fix the problem. I find that unless an issue is occurring at a regular interval or under a specific set of circumstances it is difficult to know if an adjustment really contributes to a fix or not. In other words, perceived improvements could have due to the randomness of the glitch. Since plugging into usb3 has (oddly enough) completely fixed the problem it seems possible or even likely that it would have fixed the problem completely even if it was the first thing you tried. You might consider reversing those changes (esp the the  BIOS disabled LAN) and see if if glitches recur. Of course if you dont need the LAN it doesnt matter, but for many that would be a big inconvenience to go into BIOS every tkme you needed your network.
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 01:32:48 (permalink)
    I consider myself to be one of the more lucky ones because I have never had to disable anything, not even onboard audio (I use onboard audio for PC= you tube, media player, exc). Only when I worked on a laptop I disabled my wireless card because of interference. but this Intel I7 I have, I did nothing except create a power plan. that's it. I use my USB soundcard (Focusrite) and Midi CS plugged in to my Focusrite.
    I have 2 sets of speakers for USB soundcard and set of PC speakers for PC.

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 02:25:05 (permalink)
    dlion : the key to that motherboard running flawlessly is  the correct chipset/inf. driver and there are only 2 !
    https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/P9X79/HelpDesk_Download/
     
    Windows 10  Version 10.0.27 .. i would try this 1st'' if your on win7 get 7 drivers !
    Plan B : Version 10.1.2.8 
    notwithstanding the drivers are old .. they are the correct drivers for you board.. Intel's latest will make a mess of your system !!!
    the last bios is P9X79 BIOS 4701
    Improve system stability.  again key to your motherboard running perfect and it will ... ive worked on many ..good luck !
         
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 13:42:44 (permalink)
    So, can you only obtain the beta driver by invitation? I am having a few dropout problems with my 6i6 and would very much like to try an updated driver to see if that is the issue. I searched the web for the 4.26 beta driver without any luck.

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 14:01:42 (permalink)
    have to contact their techs. their online chat is quite good, and they send you a copy of the chat by email. a running dialogue of what has been tried... next time you contact them, they look you up, read the previous chat, and continue forward.

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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 14:53:41 (permalink)
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    So, can you only obtain the beta driver by invitation? I am having a few dropout problems with my 6i6 and would very much like to try an updated driver to see if that is the issue. I searched the web for the 4.26 beta driver without any luck.


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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 15:34:25 (permalink)
    Careful on that site and make sure you get the proper driver. It takes a while for that page to open.
     
    Per my post above, I ultimately gave up on the 18i20 after 3 weeks of going back and forth with tech support. Either I got a bad unit or it just didn't like my system. It would randomly lose connectivity with SONAR, I would also get stuck MIDI notes but the worst was when engaging the transport with either audio or MIDI I would get a high pitched squeal and no sound from SONAR. It got to a point where it made my system for recording and playback unusable. I'm using a Behringer 1820 without any of the problems I had with the Focusrite...It doesn't go as low buffer wise (the lowest setting is 64 samples) but it is much more stable for me at that setting then the 18i20. Shame really, I had high hopes for the Focusrite, but in my situation I needed stability and not wasted time with beta drivers or buggy software.
     
     
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    Re: focusrite scarlett 6i6 2G "breaths" on playback 2017/04/10 22:34:05 (permalink)
    I run my 1st gen 6i6 on the latest beta driver. It works flawlessly. I can record @16 samples, although latency doesn't matter since I started to monitor signal through a real tube preamp.

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