Locked[Solved] Various 32 bit VST3s not showing up in any plug-in list

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[Solved] Various 32 bit VST3s not showing up in any plug-in list

Noticed in SONAR 2016.09, still issue in Update 2
 
Plugin: 32bit VST3 version of Blue Cat's Destructor plugin.
http://www.bluecataudio.c...ts/Product_Destructor/
Don't know if this problem effects other 32bit VST3 plugins, haven't tested.
Edit: further testing show that this issue affects multiple 32bit VST3s - see following posts...
  • Only running Sonar Plat x64.
  • Plugin is listed in registry database but never shows up in any of Sonar's dynamic plugin menus.
    See image below.
  • If I install the 64 bit version, the 64 bit version shows up and works (whether or not 32 bit is installed or not)
  • 32bit version never shows up even if it is the only version of Destructor installed.
    No VST2 versions of this plugin are installed.
I have rescanned multiple times, deleted all VST plugins from registry database, and probably a couple of other things.
 
 
 
post edited by TheSteven - 2016/10/13 12:52:53

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 07:02:09 (permalink)
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    bitbridge doesn't wrap vst3 as far as i know?

    just a sec

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 10:45:06 (permalink)
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    Looks like a bad record to me. Is that what a good 32bit VST3 record looks like? I do not have any 32bit VST3 plug-ins installed. The 64bit VST3 plug-ins have many more entries in their inventory records. I too was not aware Bitbridge worked with VST3 format.
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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 10:57:05 (permalink)
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    just to add, why not just use the x64 version?

    just a sec

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 11:02:02 (permalink)
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    I can but that's not the issue, besides some VST3s don't have a 64bit version.
     

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 11:08:25 (permalink)
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    fair enough, although i can't think of a vst3 that doesn't have a x64 version - maybe cake can chime in and clarify whether or not bb wraps vst3s?

    just a sec

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 11:18:55 (permalink)
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    I think the OP could tell us, there appear to be several 32bit VST3 entries in the image above. Does Bitbridge load any of those plug-ins?
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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 11:48:25 (permalink)
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    I just renamed my C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST folder and rescanned so now I only have the 32bit versions of VST3 plugins loaded.
     
    Yes, 32bit VST3 plugins show in plugin menus - but many if not most are missing.
    No Waves, Blue Cat, Boz Digital, Voxengo, iZotope or others.
    They are in the registry database but not in the default plugin menus

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 11:51:52 (permalink)
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    do you have an example of a 32bit vst3 working in x64 sonar?

    just a sec

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 12:08:29 (permalink)
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    My new list of 32bit VST3s - much is missing...

     
    and 32bit VST3s do work fine in 64bit Sonar


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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 14:55:19 (permalink)
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    Are you sure the image shows 32bit Pro-C2 in 64bit SONAR? I ask because the menu does not show the plug-ins are 32bit (maybe not a SONAR created description) and plug-in shows the VST3 standard header. Plug-ins wrapped in Bitbridge have the standard header in a separate window. Like this

    Or is it different for VST3?
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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 15:00:34 (permalink)
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    They are in the registry database but not in the default plugin menus

    As I mentioned above, the one registry record shown is not complete.
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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 15:08:42 (permalink)
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    *** deleted ***

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 15:16:46 (permalink)
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    scook
    Are you sure the image shows 32bit Pro-C2 in 64bit SONAR? 



    I double checked and you are right.
    They are all 64 bit.  Some installers put a VST3 copy in the same folder as the VST2  and not C:\program files\common
     
    So it looks like none of the VST3 32 bit plugins are showing.
    Thanks for catching that.
     

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    Re: 32 bit VST3 not showing up in any plug-in list 2016/10/13 15:27:27 (permalink)
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    Thanks, I will stop tearing down my inventory to test this.
    It makes sense Bitbridge does not support VST3. The program predates the VST3 format.
     
     
    marking as solved.
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