[Solved] Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end?

Author
jazzwombat
Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 53
  • Joined: 2009/02/09 20:31:16
  • Status: offline
2014/01/31 19:40:03 (permalink)

[Solved] Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end?

I frequently record my group's sessions using my Zoom digital recorder. Afterwards, I copy the wav file to my HD and import into an audio track in Sonar X1. For some reason, the end result is that the recorded audio is placed at the very end of the session, i.e., hundreds of bars beyond where the now time bar (set at 0:00:00) is. I've learned how to move the audio to the zero time point, but I wonder why it this is occurring, and how I can prevent it, and get the audio at the zero start point right from the import.
 
I would appreciate any suggestions, and thank you for your time.
 
Bob
post edited by Anderton - 2014/02/01 11:04:19

Soundclick: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz (www.soundclick/Amys6oclockjazz)
FB: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz Band (www.facebook.com/Amys6OClockJazzBand?ref=stream)
Youtube: Dr. Fills Jazz (www.youtube.com/user/DrFillsJazz)
#1

11 Replies Related Threads

    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/01/31 19:46:46 (permalink)
    It is a broadcast wave. Uncheck "Always Import Broadcast Waves At Their Timestamp" in Preferences > File > Audio Data.
    #2
    markyzno
    Max Output Level: -66 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1216
    • Joined: 2011/02/08 06:40:20
    • Location: UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/01/31 20:08:33 (permalink)
    Scook beat me to it. +1

    Sonar Platinum 64 bit > Pro tools 10.3.2 >Intel i7 3770K > 16Gb Ram > Gigabyte Z77-D3H Motherboard> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB > ATi RADEON HD5700 > 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD> Win 10 home 64 bit> Delta 1010 > MOTU Audio Express > MA-15D's > NI Ultimate 9 > NI Kontrol S61 1.1 > NI MAschine Studio 2.3 / KORG MS-20 Mini - Arturia MicroBrute > KORG SQ1 - KORG Kaoss Pad KP3 > iPad and IO Dock 2 running various bits > Bunch of guitars >

    Sound Design on IMDB --
     
    #3
    konradh
    Max Output Level: -42 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3325
    • Joined: 2006/01/16 16:07:06
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/01/31 21:49:50 (permalink)
    One time I imported a sound effect over and over again because I thought it wasn't going into Sonar.  It turns out there were like a dozen copies way out at 40 minutes. :-)

    Konrad
    Current album and more: http://www.themightykonrad.com/

    Sonar X1d Producer. V-Studio 700. PC: Intel i7 CPU 3.07GHz, 12 GB RAM. Win 7 64-bit. RealGuitar, RealStrat, RealLPC, Ivory II, Vienna Symphonic, Hollywood Strings, Electr6ity, Acoustic Legends, FabFour, Scarbee Rick/J-Bass/P-Bass, Kontakt 5. NI Session Guitar. Boldersounds, Noisefirm. EZ Drummer 2. EZ Mix. Melodyne Assist. Guitar Rig 4. Tyros 2, JV-1080, Kurzweil PC2R, TC Helicon VoiceWorks+. Rode NT2a, EV RE20. Presonus Eureka.  Rokit 6s. 
    #4
    chuckebaby
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 13146
    • Joined: 2011/01/04 14:55:28
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 02:23:20 (permalink)
    I wish they would kill that feature.
    its just not practical anymore. does anyone really not Import Broadcast Waves At Their Timestamp ?

    Windows 8.1 X64 Sonar Platinum x64
    Custom built: Asrock z97 1150 - Intel I7 4790k - 16GB corsair DDR3 1600 - PNY SSD 220GB
    Focusrite Saffire 18I8 - Mackie Control
       
    #5
    jazzwombat
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 53
    • Joined: 2009/02/09 20:31:16
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 08:37:36 (permalink)
    Thank you! I doubt I would have figured that one out on my own. And, yes, I too have repeatedly import audio only to find each copy strung together at the far end of the project. Kill this feature.
     
    Cheers,
     
    Bob

    Soundclick: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz (www.soundclick/Amys6oclockjazz)
    FB: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz Band (www.facebook.com/Amys6OClockJazzBand?ref=stream)
    Youtube: Dr. Fills Jazz (www.youtube.com/user/DrFillsJazz)
    #6
    Anderton
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 14070
    • Joined: 2003/11/06 14:02:03
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 11:04:55 (permalink)
    They should definitely keep the feature, but change the default. If you're trying to reconstruct a project within Sonar that was created with a different program, time-stamped clips will go exactly where they need to go on the timeline.

    The first 3 books in "The Musician's Guide to Home Recording" series are available from Hal Leonard and http://www.reverb.com. Listen to my music on http://www.YouTube.com/thecraiganderton, and visit http://www.craiganderton.com. Thanks!
    #7
    SuperG
    Max Output Level: -63 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1371
    • Joined: 2012/10/19 16:09:18
    • Location: Edgewood, NM
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 12:00:07 (permalink)
    Anderton
    They should definitely keep the feature, but change the default. If you're trying to reconstruct a project within Sonar that was created with a different program, time-stamped clips will go exactly where they need to go on the timeline.




    +1
     
    Super-important if you're doing any kind of dialog/soundtrack for video!

    laudem Deo
    #8
    cryophonik
    Max Output Level: -28 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4724
    • Joined: 2006/04/03 17:28:17
    • Location: Elk Grove, CA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 12:11:12 (permalink)
    Anderton
    They should definitely keep the feature, but change the default. 



    Yes, absolutely.  It's the most annoying default behavior in Sonar IMO.

    cryophonik   |   soundcloud  |   Facebook

    Q6600 | GA-EP45-UD3P | Windows 7 64 | 8GB
    Access Virus Keyboard TI2 | Kurzweil PC3X | NI Maschine

    #9
    markyzno
    Max Output Level: -66 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1216
    • Joined: 2011/02/08 06:40:20
    • Location: UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 14:13:32 (permalink)
    Anderton
    They should definitely keep the feature, but change the default. If you're trying to reconstruct a project within Sonar that was created with a different program, time-stamped clips will go exactly where they need to go on the timeline.


    + 1 million.

    Sonar Platinum 64 bit > Pro tools 10.3.2 >Intel i7 3770K > 16Gb Ram > Gigabyte Z77-D3H Motherboard> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 2 GB > ATi RADEON HD5700 > 240GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD> Win 10 home 64 bit> Delta 1010 > MOTU Audio Express > MA-15D's > NI Ultimate 9 > NI Kontrol S61 1.1 > NI MAschine Studio 2.3 / KORG MS-20 Mini - Arturia MicroBrute > KORG SQ1 - KORG Kaoss Pad KP3 > iPad and IO Dock 2 running various bits > Bunch of guitars >

    Sound Design on IMDB --
     
    #10
    mudgel
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12010
    • Joined: 2004/08/13 00:56:05
    • Location: Linton Victoria (Near Ballarat)
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/01 19:54:05 (permalink)
    Imagine the chaos trying to import audio and it didn't have a time stamp allowing it to be located properly. By all means change the default behaviour but we must keep the option. It's one of those few functions that if not available would make Sonar unusable for me.

    Mike V. (MUDGEL)

    STUDIO: Win 10 Pro x64, SPlat & CbB x64,
    PC: ASUS Z370-A, INTEL i7 8700k, 32GIG DDR4 2400, OC 4.7Ghz.
    Storage: 7 TB SATA III, 750GiG SSD & Samsung 500 Gig 960 EVO NVMe M.2.
    Monitors: Adam A7X, JBL 10” Sub.
    Audio I/O & DSP Server: DIGIGRID IOS & IOX.
    Screen: Raven MTi + 43" HD 4K TV Monitor.
    Keyboard Controller: Native Instruments Komplete Kontrol S88.
    #11
    jazzwombat
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 53
    • Joined: 2009/02/09 20:31:16
    • Status: offline
    Re: Why does an imported Zoom wav file end up at the end? 2014/02/02 09:07:09 (permalink)
    @Mike V.  Yes, makes sense to change the default and keep the feature. Thanks to everyone for the useful and informative replies.
     
    Bob

    Soundclick: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz (www.soundclick/Amys6oclockjazz)
    FB: Amy's 6 O'clock Jazz Band (www.facebook.com/Amys6OClockJazzBand?ref=stream)
    Youtube: Dr. Fills Jazz (www.youtube.com/user/DrFillsJazz)
    #12
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1