Some MIDI notes don't play!

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2010/06/08 01:13:22 (permalink)

Some MIDI notes don't play!

Hi everyone,
 
I may have brought this up before but I still periodically have a problem with some MIDI notes not playing. Each time the song is played a certain note will not produce any sound. It is usually the same note each time. This happens when I use soft synths or when I have 2 separate MIDI tracks assigned to the same soft synth.
 
I can usually fix it by deleting and re-inserting the soft synth or giving each MIDI track its own soft synth. If those don't work then I have to create a whole new project and copy the tracks over.
 
Any ideas why this happens?
Steve
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/08 11:59:20 (permalink)
    Check your "Prepare Using" MIDI playback buffer setting under Options > Global > MIDI tab. If it's under 250 try settings from 250 to 500. If it's already 500, try settings up to 750 or so.
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/08 22:03:49 (permalink)
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    Check your "Prepare Using" MIDI playback buffer setting under Options > Global > MIDI tab. If it's under 250 try settings from 250 to 500. If it's already 500, try settings up to 750 or so.


    you mean his beffer is too samll to fill with all the notes?
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/08 22:17:30 (permalink)
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/09 12:15:43 (permalink)
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    brundlefly


    Check your "Prepare Using" MIDI playback buffer setting under Options > Global > MIDI tab. If it's under 250 try settings from 250 to 500. If it's already 500, try settings up to 750 or so.


    you mean his beffer is too samll to fill with all the notes?
    SONAR needs to look ahead a little to render soft synths to audio on playback. I'm not sure why this is, since it's possible to play soft synths in real time with no more delay than your audio output latency, but if the buffer is too small, some notes may not be rendered in some projects.

    I don't experience this problem on my DAW, even with very small MIDI playback buffer settings, but some users have trouble with settings below the default of 500 milliseconds. It might depend on the number and type of soft synths you are using, and how hard a project is pushing your CPU capacity.

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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/10 03:12:19 (permalink)
    Thanks! I've upped it to 1000 and it seems to work better. Hopefully that solves it.
     
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/10 04:11:42 (permalink)
    Its best to use multiples of 64(128, 256. 512, 768, 1024) etc. from my understanding.  Some comp guru could explain why or correct me if I am wrong. 
    Another cause of notes not playing can be note overlap of the same note.  What in essence happens is that a note off from the first note will be sent after the note on from the second note resulting in the second note stopping. You can check in PRV(piano roll view) to see if there is overlap on the notes giving you trouble.  If so drag the end of the first note back so there is no overlap.  Also an inadvertent touch of a note can cause it to stop as well.  You can use Process - Deglitch to solve those.
    post edited by lorneyb2 - 2010/06/10 04:17:50
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/10 10:36:02 (permalink)
    What unit is this buffer? what is the max number for s8.5?
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/10 10:58:38 (permalink)
    reader1


    What unit is this buffer? what is the max number for s8.5?
    The max is the highest level your pc can handle without farting up the place. The max can be different for every pc.
    Just check it and when your pc starts to fart, you know you went to high!!
     
    Cj
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    Its best to use multiples of 64(128, 256. 512, 768, 1024) etc. from my understanding

    Not with the global MIDI buffers. That's only for your sound card's ASIO buffer and the Recording and Playback buffers. The global MIDI buffers do not adhere to that.
    How I come to that, is that they default is set to 500
    Cj
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 06:32:33 (permalink)
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    reader1


    What unit is this buffer? what is the max number for s8.5?
    The max is the highest level your pc can handle without farting up the place. The max can be different for every pc.
    Just check it and when your pc starts to fart, you know you went to high!!
     
    Cj

    .
     
    welcome your response, despite you are eating your words.
    :)
    you havn't yet replied what unit it was, Kb, or MB or so on...
    we can find this number can be increased by one, say 64, 65, 66...128

    EDIT:

    Its best to use multiples of 64(128, 256. 512, 768, 1024) etc. from my understanding
    Not with the global MIDI buffers. That's only for your sound card's ASIO buffer and the Recording and Playback buffers. The global MIDI buffers do not adhere to that.
    How I come to that, is that they default is set to 500
    Cj

    how about it was ,if not asio , but wdm?  not useful ?
    Does the 500ms has something to do with this buffers?
    if so, it will merely take about 128k
     
    post edited by reader1 - 2010/06/13 06:42:07
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 13:17:57 (permalink)
    reader1


    CJaysMusic


    reader1


    What unit is this buffer? what is the max number for s8.5?
    The max is the highest level your pc can handle without farting up the place. The max can be different for every pc.
    Just check it and when your pc starts to fart, you know you went to high!!
     
    Cj

    .
     
    welcome your response, despite you are eating your words.
    :)
    you havn't yet replied what unit it was, Kb, or MB or so on...
    we can find this number can be increased by one, say 64, 65, 66...128

    EDIT:

    Its best to use multiples of 64(128, 256. 512, 768, 1024) etc. from my understanding
    Not with the global MIDI buffers. That's only for your sound card's ASIO buffer and the Recording and Playback buffers. The global MIDI buffers do not adhere to that.
    How I come to that, is that they default is set to 500
    Cj
    how about it was ,if not asio , but wdm?  not useful ?
    Does the 500ms has something to do with this buffers?
    if so, it will merely take about 128k
    Speaking of farting up the place...     Reader1, please go to Options > Global > MIDI tab, and look at that while reading all references to "prepare using" in the SONAR Reference Guide PDF.
     
     


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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 13:39:02 (permalink)
    "...Speaking of farting up the place..."

    +1 to that response to Reader1.

    Randy B.



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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 20:09:34 (permalink)
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    "...Speaking of farting up the place..."

    +1 to that response to Reader1.

    Randy B.

    Do you think its positively +R levels response to you?
    can u reply the unit?
     
     
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 20:22:37 (permalink)
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    reader1


    CJaysMusic


    reader1


    What unit is this buffer? what is the max number for s8.5?
    The max is the highest level your pc can handle without farting up the place. The max can be different for every pc.
    Just check it and when your pc starts to fart, you know you went to high!!
     
    Cj

    .
     
    welcome your response, despite you are eating your words.
    :)
    you havn't yet replied what unit it was, Kb, or MB or so on...
    we can find this number can be increased by one, say 64, 65, 66...128

    EDIT:

    Its best to use multiples of 64(128, 256. 512, 768, 1024) etc. from my understanding
    Not with the global MIDI buffers. That's only for your sound card's ASIO buffer and the Recording and Playback buffers. The global MIDI buffers do not adhere to that.
    How I come to that, is that they default is set to 500
    Cj
    how about it was ,if not asio , but wdm?  not useful ?
    Does the 500ms has something to do with this buffers?
    if so, it will merely take about 128k
    Speaking of farting up the place...     Reader1, please go to Options > Global > MIDI tab, and look at that while reading all references to "prepare using" in the SONAR Reference Guide PDF.
     
     
    you might put down a good answer at #5, but this time
    can u quote the pdf here? record, playback relate to this unit? notonly digital.

    sounds some americans like RB. etc. very enjoy farting up the place.
     
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 20:28:10 (permalink)
    Reader1, I'm just weary of your non-stop, sarcastic, and ill-informed attempts to challenge people's replies, when the vast majority of your own contributions are incorrect, off topic, and unhelpful.  That's all.

    Randy B.

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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 21:25:30 (permalink)
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    Reader1, I'm just weary of your non-stop, sarcastic, and ill-informed attempts to challenge people's replies, when the vast majority of your own contributions are incorrect, off topic, and unhelpful.  That's all.

    Randy B.
    are you ill-manner? who is challenging someone's response?
    if you don't know some ways, you will ask ohters, what's incorrect? can u work out any instance?
     if you can 't answer, you can ignore, somebody may be aware of that.
    if other makes no sense of someone's reply, can he ask for detail further more?
    is this off topic?
    do u thnk every time your response is alway right? and the other will alway make sense of your answer?
     
    why not keep polite?
     
     
     
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 21:30:22 (permalink)
    ---Thanks for illustrating what I mean, Reader1.  Politely as I can be, I'm simply saying I wish you would post fewer of these argumentative posts without knowing what you're talking about. 

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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 21:40:59 (permalink)
    the help file has no explain to the unit and no describe the relationship betwween rec and plybk about delay ms and buffers.
    can we ask for more details? so that we can make sense of them. and assign rationally memory and load synths.

    if you know you can put down the answer, if not, why not wait for others reply?
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 21:46:45 (permalink)
    rbowser


    ---Thanks for illustrating what I mean, Reader1.  Politely as I can be, I'm simply saying I wish you would post fewer of these argumentative posts without knowing what you're talking about. 

    Randy B.
    polite boy, where is argument?
    do you evey time know what people talking about their issues? I found you often mistake them who are really native english speakers.
     
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2010/06/13 21:57:57 (permalink)
    rbowser, you may know all what I dn;t know what Im talking about. try to point out this mistake, I can correct .
    I know you are of patient to reply with a long paragraph to others issue, even if it was quite out of op.
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    Re:Some MIDI notes don't play! 2013/08/24 18:16:48 (permalink)
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    brundlefly

    I am happy to say that the answer below solved the random midi note drop out problem that I was having in Sonar X2. Big grateful hugs and kisses for the answer- Ann

    Check your "Prepare Using" MIDI playback buffer setting under Options > Global > MIDI tab. If it's under 250 try settings from 250 to 500. If it's already 500, try settings up to 750 or so.





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