Some MIDI notes not sounding!!! (was: How to "compress" MIDI drums?)

Author
Post
Essentials Only Full Version
JazzSinger
Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 895
  • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
  • Status: offline
2012/05/05 19:28:32 (permalink)

Some MIDI notes not sounding!!! (was: How to "compress" MIDI drums?)

By following the Sonar University video, I have successfully created a MIDI bass drum track from audiosnapping the live BD track.
 
However, the difference between loudest and softest on the MIDI track is HUGE compared to the original live track.
 
Is there an easy way to "compress" the MIDI (I'd prefer that to compressing the resulting Session Drummer output).
post edited by JazzSinger - 2012/05/05 19:55:10
#1

8 Replies Related Threads
    Stone House Studios
    Max Output Level: -40 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3550
    • Joined: 2004/05/07 15:07:32
    • Location: Natural Bridge, VA USA
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 19:34:15 (permalink)
    JazzSinger


    By following the Sonar University video, I have successfully created a MIDI bass drum track from audiosnapping the live BD track.
     
    However, the difference between loudest and softest on the MIDI track is HUGE compared to the original live track.
     
    Is there an easy way to "compress" the MIDI (I'd prefer that to compressing the resulting Session Drummer output).

    Midi notes can be individually adjusted for velocity, or you could use a velocity controller envelope.  Compression is an audio thing.
     
    Brian

     Core i7-6700@3.40Ghz  Windows 10x64 16 GB RAM
    Sonar Platinum/Studio One     PreSonus Studio 192
    #2
    garrigus
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 8599
    • Joined: 2003/11/05 17:23:21
    • Location: www.garrigus.com
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 19:41:51 (permalink)
    Check out this article over at DigiFreq...

    * Compressing MIDI Velocities in Cakewalk
    http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/tip.asp?ID=1

    Note: Edit > Interpolate is now Process > Find/Change in X1.

    And more articles at: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/

    Scott

    --
    Scott R. Garrigus - http://garrigus.com
    * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar and Sony Sound Forge Power book series: http://garrigus.com/?PowerBooks
    * Author of the Cakewalk Sonar ProAudioTutor video tutorial series: http://garrigus.com/?ProAudioTutor
    * Publisher of the DigiFreq free music technology newsletter: http://digifreq.com/?DigiFreq
    * Publisher of the NewTechReview free consumer technology newsletter: http://newtechreview.com/?NewTechReview



    #3
    JazzSinger
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 895
    • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 19:50:38 (permalink)
    I started adjusting the level of the individual beats, I noticed they are NOT softer. The just don't play!

    What is baffling is, if I play the entire track, some BD beats don't sound. At all.

    But if I put the cursor just before the non-sounding beat and hit play, it sounds just fine!

    What is going on?
    #4
    JazzSinger
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 895
    • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 20:00:39 (permalink)
    Further experimentation: random Bass Drum notes simply do not play!

    If I start from a different position, other notes tend to randomly not play.

    How utterly weird. This is not discussed in the Sonar University video!
    #5
    JazzSinger
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 895
    • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 20:09:42 (permalink)
    I have even found a position, 2 seconds before song starts, where the FIRST beat does not sound!

    Weirder and weirder...
    #6
    bvideo
    Max Output Level: -58 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1707
    • Joined: 2006/09/02 22:20:02
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/05 20:44:33 (permalink)
    Usually when these midi skips are reported, the advice is to raise the default midi prepare buffer (in Edit > Preferences > MIDI - Playback and Recording) to 500 ms or a little bigger. Hope it helps you.
    #7
    JazzSinger
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 895
    • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/06 09:44:40 (permalink)
    Thanks bvideo, that was it.

    Man, I cannot believe that the default setting is too low to handle a project with a single mono-track bass drum which only plays every 1 and 3 beat!
    #8
    JazzSinger
    Max Output Level: -73 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 895
    • Joined: 2004/07/06 16:30:59
    • Status: offline
    Re:How to "compress" MIDI drums? 2012/05/06 09:47:10 (permalink)
    So many features in Sonar seem to need tweaking or an extraordinary degree of in-depth knowledge before they can  be used.
    #9
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1