JohnrC
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Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
I've seen a couple of references to this issue but can't seem to find a definitive solution.
I've installed PCIe UAD to card into a new Windows 10 system. 16 GB RAM and lots of SSD storage. The UAD comes with a number of plugs authorized, and a list of others that you can try on a time limited basis. All seem to be 32 bit. Any of these load and run fine in Sound Forge 11.
But in most current version of SONAR Platinum the authorized plugs will not load. Trying returns err msg that it's either not present or not properly installed. I can, however, load a plug that I've started the trial on.
Any help greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/24 14:08:51
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PS: running Win 10 and SONAR as 64 bit. Knowledge base article mentioned popping in the CD and installing SONAR 32 bit and running them side by side. But I wouldn't know how that's done through the Command Center.
[Edit] Yes, paths to all VST folders are listed and I've tried rescanning.
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/24 15:00:06
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Ken Nilsen ZarggBBZWin 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/24 15:45:47
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Thanks Zargg71.
I'm using v 8.6 which is the most current.
Are you saying that your UAD plugins are 64 bit?
Are you running Win and SONAR in 64 bit mode?
Regards.
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/24 16:20:46
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Yes, I am running Windows, SONAR and UAD as X64. As far as I can tell, they have supported X64 since version 6.4, in 2012.
All the best.
Ken Nilsen ZarggBBZWin 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/24 16:35:54
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I'm also sure the UAD plugins are 64bit. Are you seeing the UAD DLL files here: c:\program files\universal audio\powered plugins\uad-2 powered plugins\ ? You might check the UAD paths with the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager found under the SONAR Utilities menu. If the UAD plugin path(s) point to C:\Program Files (x86)\ that could be a problem. I'm running SONAR and UAD PCIe Windows7 64-bit without problems and expect it would work the same on Win10. edit: Zargg71 answered the 64bit question while I was posting.
post edited by Tom B - 2016/07/24 16:58:41
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 09:51:37
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 13:32:20
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Thanks, everyone, for your time. I've been waiting for response from UAD but doesn't seem to be happening.
In any event, yes, although I don't recall setting or changing installation defaults, it looks like an infestation of directories has been created as follows:
C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\VstPlugins
C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\VstPlugins\Powered Plugins\Mono
C:\Program Files\Universal Audio\Powered Plugins\UAD-2 Powered Plugins
C:\Program Files (x86)\Universal Audio\Powered Plugins\UAD-2 Powered Plugins
C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins\Powered Plugins
C:\Program Files (x86)\Steinberg\VSTPlugins\Powered Plugins
"Powered Plugins" refer to UAD.
I tried adding each path in SONAR preferences but the flyout still only showed 32 bit plugins for UAD.
I then tried deleting all paths except what looks like 64 bit UAD but still no go. Still only showing 32 bit UAD plugins.
I have noticed that I no longer get the small notification flyout that plugins are being scanned when starting SONAR (it is set to Scan on Startup). Clicking on Scan button in Preferences doesn't *appear* to do anything. Clicking on Reset says that a scan is in progress and to wait before starting another scan... could this be the problem? Could the scan be stuck somewhere and unable to complete?
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 13:50:46
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Any splash screens hiding behind other windows?
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 14:29:12
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Anderton
Any splash screens hiding behind other windows?
None hiding that I can find (and that has indeed happened quite a bit in Win 10). I've let SONAR run for hours and still get the Scan in progress err msg in Preferences. The flyout dialog box at startup saying VST plugins were being scanned (the one I'm not seeing anymore) looked like the standard Windows notifications that slide out from the bottom right near the system tray.
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 16:02:58
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File this under 'Doing-too-many-things-at-once-to-know-what-fixed-it', but I changed dual monitor display to just duplicate the main display and rebooted. Maybe the Scan progress box was lost in there, but it's back.
Doing this via remote from home where I can't hear it, but I see all 64 bit plugins and they load and seem to respond fine in playback.
Obviously, I have to clean up all these VST directories. Is there any harm in moving them so that I end up with say 2 directories... a 32 bit and a 64 bit? I can point to the new folders in SONAR and Sound Forge, but maybe I have to hope for a response from UAD to see if their installation process somehow needs to see the plugins in one place permanently.
Cheers.
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 16:14:45
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Have You tried to do a vst reset and rescan? Go to Preferences, Vst Settings. Choose Manual scan. Check failed and existing plugins. Press reset.  All the best.
Ken Nilsen ZarggBBZWin 10 Pro X64, Cakewalk by Bandlab, SPlat X64, AMD AM3+ fx-8320, 16Gb RAM, RME Ucx (+ ARC), Tascam FW 1884, M-Audio Keystation 61es, *AKAI MPK Pro 25, *Softube Console1, Alesis DM6 USB, Maschine MkII Laptop setup: Win 10 X64, i5 2.4ghz, 8gb RAM, 320gb 7200 RPM HD, Focusrite Solo, + *
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JohnrC
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 16:19:15
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Thanks, Zargg71. Yes I did but as mentioned it didn't help and was almost like it got stuck in the Scan without any dlg box to show progress.
In any event, the plugs show up now. Just want to ensure I clean things up without causing further probs.
Cheers.
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Re: Some UAD Plug-ins Won't Install - Only in SONAR
2016/07/27 17:12:28
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JohnrC,
Based on your earlier post today, it sounds like you correctly set the VST Scan Path to the 64-bit UAD plugins located under: "C:\Program Files\Universal Audio\Powered Plugins\UAD-2 Powered Plugins\".
The "C:\Program Files (x86)\Universal Audio\Powered Plugins\UAD-2 Powered Plugins\" are 32-bit versions, and you don't want those. You probably know this already.
I'm assuming you've tried to use "Insert Audio FX" to insert a UAD plugin into the FX rack and can see the UAD effects in the menu.
Please check this too (maybe you did this already):
Open the Utilities > Cakewalk Plug-in Manager
Under "Plug-in Categories", select the category where the UADs are located. Try this one first: "VST Audio Effects(VST)".
In "Registered Plug-ins", scroll down and find the UAD plugins. Click on various UAD plug-ins.
The file names should have a path to the UAD 64-bit location -- there should be no "(x86)" in the path names.
While in the plug-in manager, click on Options and make sure only the UAD 64-bit path shows up. This verifies that the VST path was setup correctly in preferences.
One other thing: On the far right side of the Plug-in Manager, you can navigate to the various UAD items and right click to see the path for each UAD menu entry. If the path is not UAD 64-bit, you'll need to delete the menu entry and add the correct plug-in path.
I'm not familiar with all the details of the plug-in manager. If you need to edit things, I'm hoping someone else can chime-in and help you through the process.
Hopefully this helps.
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