Sonar 6 Feature Request

Is it too early to start requests for Sonar 6. I know I haven't tried 5 out yet and things sound great, but I there are some things I see missing that I want to put on Cakewalk's mind before the next version is developed. You know cakewalk has to be looking towards Sonar 6 if it will be realeased in about 12 months. Of course the next major release will be Project 5 v3, Dimension Pro and any other projects so there are other priorities.

I mentioned in another thread somewhere that I think Cake will guide Sonar to more of a "mixer/recorder/effects with MIDI tracks" product and direct Project 5 to the "(step) sequencer/loop/pattern recorder with instruments" audience. That sounds like the position I see, but who am I? That would be fine with me; I'll probably get Project 5 when it gets the "Order now, upgrade free" route. In any event I could forsee doing a lot of tracking with instruments in one app/mode(32-bit XP) for compatibility to plugins, recording environment, etc. and mixing in another app/mode (64-bit XP/2003 Server/Longhorn/Vista) for performance and clean signal quality. Stronger mixing tools will cause me to stop looking at things like Samplitude as a mixing solution.

I just sent the following message to the Cakewalk contact page. I originally tried the Feature Request page but got an error.

I tried submitting this through the Feature Request page (http://www.cakewalk.com/support/FeatureRequest.asp)andgot an error.
As a Sonar 4 user I am interested in 5 but I am really looking forward to seeing these things in Sonar 6...

which I'm sure you guys are thinking about since there's no baseball distracting you. :(

Please don't take my last remark seriously, I am looking forward to using these features in Sonar.

AUTOMATION SETS
The ability to save and recall complete mix automation such as aux sends, volume or pan as a set.

RECORDABLE BUSSES
The ability to record(not bounce) submixes based on busses during playback. Better traditional mixer/record workflow enhancement. I may record 3 or 4 percussion submixes and choose.

VST MIDI/EFFECT SIDECHAIN
MIDI-generating, MIDI-controlled VSTs need to be usable natively without applicationd such as DirectiXer and energyXT. Dynamics sidechain implemetation like db-audioware.

CHANNEL STRIP
Leverage Roland and Voxengo(especially) and provide a KILLER channel strip plugin similar to Voxformer or Kjaerhus Gold Channel.(multi-EQ+Compression)

Of course, I'd like to be able to arm and unarm tracks during looping and playback.

I'd also like to see faceplates for my Roland instruments, so I can save their settings, new patches(that don't exist in the machine) in my projects, as if they were VSTi's.

ORIGINAL: nexus
Would it be so hard for them to allow pasting options for midi notes like Cubase SX3 has, with it's "paste as origin" where you just select notes in the piano roll or in place editors and paste them at the EXACT location on whatever track you select automatically with ONE click?

As a workaround, select the notes in the track view, and ctrl-shift-drag them to your new track. The 'shift' modifier locks the clip in time.

Sonar 6 Feature Request

LO-FRIGGIN-L


you guys crack me up

i'd like to see Sonar be extended to a Mastering program like samplitude.To rip from and burn directly to cd from Sonar would be great, aswell as do pq coding,cd text etc With it's 64bit engine it would be a powerful mastering tool. Then i could throw cdarchitect right where it belongs, in the garbage!

PS also batch conversion

I'd like to have:
1. Remove Track/Bus differences, i.e.:
- set output of audio track to another audio track input,
- select multiple buses (like tracks) - if I need to delete 3 buses I have to do it individually - too unnatural
- sidechaing
- remove (or have an option to do this) the track/bus section divider. I'm tired of having Groups, Auxes and Master Buses in 1 place, and other tracks in another. Why can't I move Group to the track section - that would be much more comfortable for me
2. Improve track folders - it's silly that nested folders aren't supported. For instance I put all the synths outputs in a folder A. Then put FOlder A and the corresponding MIDI track into folder B (great for multioutput synths).
1+2: It would be VERY cool to have a folder for "Aux Buses' or 'Groups'.
3. Improve Freeze:
- add a ReFreeze option (in case you change something it's so long and annoying to unfreeze and freeze again). It would be especially cool if the refreeze will only recalculate the changes (the interval before the change, the change and the interval after change - to crossfide the changes for the smooth sound)
4. Improve VST support:
- GUI (resizing) problems
- VST MIDI FX and VST MIDI Output for some VSTi's
- Multi-Rename tool (tired of pressing Properties each time for each plugin from the pack/bundle to add its Developer name or Category in case needed)
5. Add track built-in Spectrum/Phase Analyzer (and an offline version as well) with all that metering stuff (See Waves PAZ/Elemental Audio Inspector XL)
6. Improve Surround support for soft synths (NI Absynth 3, Reaktor 5, Kontakt 2 etc don't produce 6-channel output even if they configured properly and the DXi Audio Track Ouput is set to 6-channel Surround Bus).
7. Improve Tempo-Synced Automation curves - we want the period of the wave to be MORE than 2 measures.
8 Somethin else?

- BeatDetective kind of application/option

- "Import from session" function

- Be able to name audio card inputs/outputs

- Sidechain compressor

Dude

i'd like to see Sonar be extended to a Mastering program like samplitude.To rip from and burn directly to cd from Sonar would be great, aswell as do pq coding,cd text etc With it's 64bit engine it would be a powerful mastering tool. Then i could throw cdarchitect right where it belongs, in the garbage!

Hell yeah!!!! I've been asking for this for a long time!!!

original: BigDtheeAbmmnble
Be able to name audio card inputs/output

Yea, this is is practically a necessity.

ORIGINAL: BigDtheeAbmnble

ID LIKE TO SEE THE NEXT VERSION AN "HD VERSION" WITH A DSP ACCELERATE CARD.IMAGINE THAT...........SONAR 6 HD.......THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS......IT WOULD PUT DIGIDESIGN OUT OF BUISNESS.....................CUZ IN REALITY SONAR HAS A MORE USER FRIENDLY LAYOUT AND TOOLS.......................

AFAIK Digidesign has a *bunch* of valid US-patents for using (their) dedicated hardware and dsp-cards, so maybe that's the point why other leading companies like Twelfetone or Steinberg do not throw any product competing with Protools HD on the market...
From my point of view it's *far* to easy to get patens for any stuff you want in the US, but that's another sad story...

cheers,
Chris

hi, i,m a composer from egypt ,i wish to make sonar the first host in the middle east and asian countries
so our dreams in the next update is...(if some body can send it to them)
1-warp time(stretching the tempo grid manually from any point to follow audio or midi events with the ability to snap to the nearest event).

2-draw tool(to draw audio events such as in soundforge,wavelab,cubase and many more

3-the loop construction view(for each slice enable gate,fade,quantize,snap,layring(to make copy,paste,replace,move and remove time or slice)).

4-multi channel loop synth.(can read the acidized files direct from sonar (not only the external rex files) and the ability to export the midi grooves to sonar midi tracks,and also the ability to copy, paste each key to the empty keys to add filters and amp. works for each key, e.g(attack,decay,pan,volume,pitch),and finally the ability to make effect inserts and sends for each channel with the automation.

hint some people prefare to work direct with loops while the others prefare to work with loops modules

5-micro tuner (a midi effect with many presets from the hole world to work with the modules have that abbility like steinberg modules (halion,hypersonic and many more)and try to make the others abble that.

6-general midi arranger(comes as one complex midi effect with many complet styles(intro,variations,fills and end) from the hole world, and the ability to make our styles from midi patterns or real time midi recording.
this arranger comes with a separate drums and instrument sections channels can be activated,linked or not.
this arranger should follow midi events in a midi track and the real time midi recordings with a lift hand changing
style variations by midi keyboard keys,and the ability to hear the styles at stop mode.

7-some effects like vocoders have a midi output,some other hosts reads that automatically,but sonar vst adapter make that manually by enabling as dxi.

8-some vst modules and effects still make errors with the vst adapter and can,t read.

9-some vst modules (like groove agent,broomastick bass ) have input to midi tracks to make the track records their patterns,some other hosts reads that but sonar doesn,t.....!

10-the automation envelops doesn,t appear in the output audio track of a module if we open that module from the synth rack but when we open the module from an audio track insert ,the automations appears.why...?

11-real time audio input bus(to make sonar the best multitrack i have ever seen).

12-the event inspector if we changed the value of some event and if we add anoter events and pounce the midi clips the added events can,t take the same value unless when giving new value and return to the last.

thanks for your patient
mostafa alswefi
composer,computer and sound engineer
EGYPT-CAIRO
MOPILE\0020101866430
www.alswefi_composer2006@yahoo.com

yes ,please

Got to have a better Wave Editor, not the 'LOOP' editor, a really kickin full featured Wave Editor - please.

Why should we have to go into Sound Forge' ( i don't...) or Adobe (thinking about it because it used to be Cool Edit) to edit a wave file make no sense...

Sonar Six should have an impressive Wave Editor or else...

LO-FRIGGIN-L

Hehehe... I'd have to go with HH on this one. I'm reading all of these posts, and though I'm not a programmer, I'm trying to imagine what it would take to actually implement all of these requests. In the next version yet. Yeah...

It's the same thing (almost) every time one of these threads gets started - Everyone has something they just cannot live without. They'll jump ship if it's not included the next time around. Funny, Sonar's user-base just seems to keep getting bigger...

hi, i,m a composer from egypt ,i wish to make sonar the first host in the middle east and asian countries
so our dreams in the next update is...(if some body can send it to them)

Thats funny! You asked a registered owner to do it for you in this post!http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=662693&mpage=1&key=ò¡²¥

Why cant you request them yourself? 1 could only guess!!!

edit- sorry bout the link! http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=662693&mpage=1&key=򡲥

Elle,
Wondering if you've seen these free plugs. Not built into Sonar, but quite helpful and CPU easy.

Spectral Analyzer= Voxengo SPAN (lots of other free plugs, too)

Voxengo Downloads

Spectral/Phase/Volume monitor= Inspector (installs two demos, too. Equim and Neodymium. Cool plugs, but I'm not looking to spend more money right now...)

Elemental Audio- Inspector FREE


Peace,