Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help.

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Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help.

Hi everyone. Thanks for reading this. I'll try to be brief. I have been using Reason 3.0 for years along with Sonar HS 6. I use Toneport as my interface, also for 3 years. I have no problems really to speak of until today. I use windows xp service pack 3 along with the above. Today, when I brought up a song as I have done 50 times or so in the past, I can see both programs as usual, but only the Sonar is moving as it should. I'm talking about the line that moves through the song. The Reason line never starts, while the Sonar line moves as it should. In addition, there is no sound coming from headphones or monitors. Neither program is producing any sound. I can use Reason by itself, without Sonar just fine. So far, I have not been able to use Sonar 6 by itself-but then, I never have in the past. I have done nothing whatsoever to alter these programs. It just began today. Under Reason: When I look under preferences-audio, It says I have no sound card. When I look under preferences-midi, it shows that I am using Line 6 Toneport which is what I have been using for years. Noteaudio I see that my Line 6 sound card is present This same thing occurs in all my Reason/Sonar songs which leads me to believe that this is a Rewire problem. I don't know if this reasoning is correct though. I don't know if this reasoning is correct though. After several years, I still do not really understand Sonar 6 and how to quickly get to the bottom of things. Under Sonar: I have looked around under options on sonar and as far as I can tell, everything is listed correctly, meaning that my ASIO driver and interface are there with the green check by it. When I play the song (any song for that matter), with Sonar only, I hear nothing where I once could hear Sonar only without the Reason (midi). My midi inputs and outputs are listed with "x" in the boxes. ( Toneport Interface and Axiom 49 keyboard ). If I go to insert menu on Sonar 6, Rewire is grayed out. But, I don't usually bring up the songs this way anyway, as it has never worked correctly to begin with. Normally, and successfully, I bring up Sonar 6 first and then go to Reason and bring that up. However, this no longer works after about 3 years of doing it this way. I'm not sure what else to say at this point, I'm just hoping that this problem rings some sort of bell with someone. Please let me know if you need more info about this and I'll get it out. Thanks for reading this, please help if you can. bob
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/16 00:25:22 (permalink)
    I did not write this entry all jumbled up like this! Sorry.
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/17 08:36:27 (permalink)
    a couple of things - first, if you're using Firefox the hard carriage returns do not work in this forum.  using IE will resolve that.

    next - if Reason does not show you have a soundcard then that's a problem.  I don't have reason, so I don't know how to tell you to troubleshoot that.

    so are you saying that you use Reason and SHS6 both in standalone modes?  not using rewire?  how do you route audio from Reason into sonar?  I'm not following there.

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/18 03:16:08 (permalink)
    Thanks for responding to this and for letting me in on the firefox/explorer thing.

    I do use Reason to build bass, drums and other stuff but I use Sonar for guiters and vocals. When I bring up a song in Sonar,it will play but there is no sound at all. The Reason marker never leaves the first position, but the Sonar marker moves along through the measure as though it were playing. By itself, Reason works perfectly. By itself alone, Sonar produces no sound although the program seems okay other than that.

    I have recently looked closer at Sonar and on the input area to the far left-where all the instruments are, I see that there seems to be no soundcard associated with any of the instruments. Under "I" for input, it says "none". But, if I click the small arrow by it, it says:

    "none" followed by a checked box which can not be unchecked.

    ASIO Toneport UX1 (2 in, 1 out )

    Reason with arrow that brings up all the Reason channels


    The ASIO Toneport  mentioned above here can't be checked-nothing happens if I try to select it.

    I don't know if you or someone else knows this or not, but does a missing or defective soundcard cause Rewire not to work? By the way, my Toneport works fine when I plug a guitar into it.

    If so, what can I do to re-establish my Soundcard? It seems like all I need to do is get Sonar to "see" my soundcard. I don't know what has happened that it is not there now ( even though it really is ).

    I hope this is enough for you to go on. As we have seen so many times, "I am stumped" Its pretty darned frustrating too.

    Please let me know what else you need to know and I'll get it to you. Thanks for your time.

    bob
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/18 08:58:26 (permalink)
    yes, I'm certain that reason would need a soundcard option to work, just like sonar does.  have you tried rebooting?  sometimes windows looses USB devices and they have to be "reinitialized".  you could even try unplugging the UX1 and replugging it back in.

    you don't have the UX1 plugged into a USB hub do you?  it should be in a dedicated USB port and preferably in the rear, not the front (the rear ports have more current available since they are not on a "header" but directly on the motherboard).

    did you recently do any windows updates? 

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/19 01:10:34 (permalink)
    Thanks for the speedy reply. I have just unplugged my UX1 and am at this moment trying to get it to come back. I try never to unplug it because it is not easy to get it to work again. I'm hoping that perhaps doing this will put things back in order, but I do not know.
    I run to the usb in the rear and no hub.
    I highly suspect windows is involved because of the update. I didn't know if that could mess with my music programs or not.
     
    Thanks for your input. Do you think I will need to re-install Sonar if I can't get this fixed? Do you think that doing so will remedy this problem? I don't want to do this if I don't have to.
     
    Also, Do you think that there is some sort of online Sonar update that I need to fix this? I'm just guessing.
     
    Thanks again for your help. I will let you know what happens if I ever get UX1 up again.
     
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/19 07:12:12 (permalink)
    I do not think that sonar is the problem at all here, I think it's got to do with the UX1 and its drivers or interaction with its drivers and something else in windows.  the UX1 should not be a pain to get up and working again if you unplug and replug it.  that should be the equivalent of "rebooting" for it.

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/20 01:57:54 (permalink)
    Thanks for the reply again. I sort of agree with you about that except that Reason, through the Toneport, seems to be working. What I mean is that after plugging the Toneport USB back in, I can hear Reason through it ( I use it as an interface ),but still the same problem exists with Sonar.
     
    This just in... I noticed a new window while bringing up Sonar. This is not something that happens everytime, but sometimes, there is a window that says something like:
     
    "The server is busy, please switch to the other program to fix the problem."
     
    Then, it brings up the start menu on the left. When I switch to Reason, it still comes out the same way. No sound.
     
    I have Reason and Melodyne which also run together with Sonar. Does any of this make any sense to you?
     
    Please let me know what you think. I do appreciate your help!
     
    bob
     
     
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/20 02:24:56 (permalink)
    ok, look in sonar at OPTIONS>AUDIO and make sure there are drivers listed for the PLAYBACK anD RECORDING DEVICE(S).

    if not, and if you can't select the UX1 from the pull down menus, then you need to run the wave profiler at the bottom of that window.

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/21 00:37:02 (permalink)
    Thanks again for the reply. You were almost right. I have little doubt that you would have zeroed in very soon. It turns out that it was the "Playback Timing Master".
    I have no idea at all how this was essentially turned off, but it was.  I suspected this a couple of days ago, but didn't know that this would have that much to do with the Reason marker and not the Sonar marker.
    Once I selected the Toneport again, it brought in audio-which was nice enough. At this point I still had no Input for Sonar but this time, unlike last time, when I tried to select it, it was selectable.
    Just two clicks ended all my agony.
    I went on about this in case there is some poor soul one day who has this same problem. And, for you Sir Beagle, so you can add this to your problem list since you seem to be the guru around here.

    Many thanks for not giving up on this Beagle, you gain another star.

    Until I get shafted by a machine again.....

    bob
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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/21 09:13:18 (permalink)
    yeah, actually PLAYBACK and RECORDING DEVICES and PLAYBACK and RECORDING TIMING MASTERs are the same thing, just called different things accoridng to the version of sonar you have.  I think they changed the name of it in S8.5 or maybe 8 and since you have SHS6, I should have remembered they called it TIMING MASTER instead of DEVICE.

    glad you got it going!  make some music Bob!!!

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/22 01:36:34 (permalink)
    Yes, they think its funny to keep changing names and stuff on us. It keeps us confused-except for you, of course. Someday I will be forced to upgrade but until then....
    Thanks for coming to the rescue again. Be extra careful and don't let anything happen to you or I will never get this album out.
    I'll bother you no more (this time).

    many thanks,

    bob

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    Re:Sonar 6 HS with Reason3.0 suddenly no sound. Please help. 2011/10/22 08:06:07 (permalink)


    glad you're working again Bob!

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