Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion

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2014/06/17 23:14:53 (permalink)

Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion

I have a midi drum track created in Sonar 6 that I would like to be able to open/use in Sonar X3.
 
How do I set this up?
 
Your help is very appreciated.
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/17 23:29:27 (permalink)
    Unless there is something unusual about it, the project or MIDI file should open in X3. Connecting MIDI tracks to a synth is the same in X3 as it was in SONAR 6. Any idea what drum synth was used in SONAR 6 and which one is going to be used in X3?
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/18 00:04:23 (permalink)
    MIDI tracks can be opened in any DAW or sequencer made since the beginning of MIDI in 1980's. 
     
    Roland and Cakewalk have always used the same note assignments. Yamaha is a little different. So it's a simple matter of opening the CWP, CWB or MID file in X3. Then assign it's output to TTS-1 or Session Drummer. If you have bought X3 Producer you will have Addictive drums. 
    The Midi track should be by default, channel 10 which will play TTS-1 GM drums. 
    Session Drummer and Addictive drums need for you to load a drum kit of which there are many choices from Electronic to Jazz kits before you'll hear sound. They are way better than TTS-1 because they play real samples of real drums. ( I still kinda like TTS-1 kick :? ) 

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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/18 00:30:28 (permalink)
    Wow! And thanks for such a timely response.
     
    I'm afraid both of you are talking past me as I am a novice user.
     
    When I try to load the song created in Sonar 6 the screen pop-up says:
     
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/18 00:35:15 (permalink)
    I guess you cannot post an image so I will post just the message within the pop-up
     
    The following plug-ins are referred to by this project, but could not be found. Session Drummer 2
     
    Now what?
     
    Please detain all moves in a procedure, do not assume I know anything! Lol
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/18 01:09:35 (permalink)
    Well this is because your Sonar 6 used session drummer 2, Sonar is looking for it and cannot find it.  Load the song in safe mode, and insert session drummer 3 or ?? instead.
     
    If you still have Sonar 6 you could install it and Sonar x3 will find Session drummer 2. But there's no point in this. The version was 32 bit. You see your new system is all 64 bit now and it's better to use the newer VST's. which come as 64 bit now. Don't worry, it will work, We all went through this a few years ago..your just a little late to the game..:) 

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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/18 01:33:15 (permalink)
    Ok...thanks... I'll give it a shot and let you know.
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 00:26:49 (permalink)
    Ok...I'm sorry to keep bothering you guys but how do I load a song in "Safe Mode"?
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 00:31:14 (permalink)
    Hold the SHIFT key while opening the project.
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 00:50:21 (permalink)
    Update: (thanks) Now that I have it open in "Safe Mode" and canceled "Session Drummer 2", how do I load "Session Drummer 3" in its' place for the already written midi drum track?
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 10:15:33 (permalink)
    If you change "load" to "insert", you'll find the answer at the top of the SONAR GUI.

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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 17:24:48 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the help.
     
    I understand what you have written but I still cannot get X3 to play the midi drum track.
     
    I don't mean to sound so inept but I cannot get this file to play.
     
    I have opened the song in "safe mode" and canceled "session drummer 2". I then have gone up to "Insert" and selected "session drummer". Still things do not play.
     
    I'm afraid I am so novice at this that I need every step written out.
     
    Again, thanks for any help.
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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/19 23:23:42 (permalink)
    Did you load a kit into session drummer? 
    It would seem if you have used Sonar before the basics are the same but just to refresh your memory... 
    Insert the soft synth
    Assign the mid track output to that synth
    Session drummer is silent until you load a kit, If you used session drummer 2 you would already know that ,, right? Just hit the drums in the GUI to test it. 
    Is there sound from other tracks. 
    Have you used X3 for anything else yet? 
     
    You did get the Session drummer synth loaded didn't you?
    Reason I ask is you used to go up to insert to load a soft synth but in X 3 you do this differently. You have to access the synth rack in a side bar on the left or right depending on the screenset your using. For me it's on the right in screenset 2. expand the side bar. 

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    Re: Sonar 6 to X3 Drum Track Conversion 2014/06/20 01:54:40 (permalink)
    Grazie Grazie Milligrazie!!
     
    I'm still not sure what I did but thanks to you it is working!
     
    Again, many thanks. 
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