Sonar 8 & Native Instruments B4 problem.

I am using NI B4 with SONAR 8.0.2 with no problem. I've noticed I could not just set my audio setup settings in version 8 just like I did in version 7. You have to experiment a little. I am using B4 on 2 different systems...one with an old GINA 20 audio interface and one with an RME 9652 audio interface. Once I got everything set right, I've been able to run at low latency just like with version 7 and before.

Also, this is being done on 2.4 and 2.53 GHz single core systems.

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THe logic that something works in one version and the other, is not QED that is a bug.

Sonar 8 has many improvements, however to take advantage of them you may have to reconfigure your soundcard or Sonar configuration settings.

Every new version you should experiment with your settings until you have what works best.

It may even be undoing some configuration compromises you originally made and have forgotten about.

Don't get me wrong it may be a bug, and I am not having a go, but lazy logic always frustrates me.

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Good word, Gordon. I'm not sure who "John" is that 'twaddle' is referring to, but your advice is correct. I could type out my exact settings for 'twaddle', but those would not be applicable to his setup. There are too many variables. The settings between my two systems are not the same. Each user has to find out what is best for their setup.

For what it's worth, version 8.* of SONAR's audio engine handles things differently than previous versions as I've experienced. It has been good for most users, but others have run into problems which I'm sure are being addressed in the upcoming update.

Have you tried a different driver mode yet? I see you are using ASIO, but do you get the same results with WDM?

twaddle...here are 2 screen captures of my settings in the Options->Audio setup of SONAR





As you know, your audio interface drivers, your audio driver mode, aud.ini, I/O buffer, settings, etc. all affect performance.

I am still experiencing the audio randomly dropping out and forcing a machine reboot to restore it (with my old GINA-20 interface); however, I am not having any trouble running soft synths including the B4 software.

Do you have any songs from S7 that work in S8 that don't use B4?


The reason that I'm asking is because IF you have other tracks in your S7 song that aren't B4 and you can listen to those without the noise, then it's not your sound card....nor sound settings.

Then you have a problem with B4....NOT Sonar.



I run tons of Native Instruments Soft Synths in S8. No problems at all. B4 has been great.

What version of B4 are you running?

You don't have to remove sonar, just re-install it. Just run your setup disk again. All of your previous pluggins and settings will remain.

Are you talking about all of the dirty "overdriven" sounds?

Super Continental is a dirty organ.

Go to the Organ Tab and Turn down the driver on the Tube Amplifier.

Audition the sound on the Preset Tab and see how it sounds.

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I believe you are talking about something different than what I'm thinking because you said the sound actually gets so bad that it stops stops right?

I ran into a problem with B4 in S8. I'm not sure if it's related though. It was a CPU spike that would cause a dropout...but only when there was NO audio (either just sitting there idling...or during playback when there was an empty part of the project that was producing no audio.) It would manifest when the leslie rotor was engaged. It turned out to be some sort of floating point denormal bug in Native Instrument's code. When the floating point unit is asked to represent a floating point zero, it shifts into another mode to represent a really really accurate zero...which ends up getting the processor's panties in a wad.

There's a really interesting and tacky way to get around this. There's a plugin who's only function is to add a very tiny bit of noise to the audio stream to keep it from being zero and triggering the denormal bug. (See www.digitalfishphones.com "normalizer".)

FWIW my workaround did work....


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