Sonar 8 and Waves plugins 6 - no GUI = big problem

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Talking to another Waves support rep on the phone, I learned that Waves plugins don't work on 64-bit Vista!

They just flat out don't work, even though Sonar works in 64-bit Vista.

Talking to another Wav

X-Ray Windows Not Compatible With Some Plug-ins

X-Ray Windows is not compatible with plug-ins that use DirectDraw to create their windows, such as many recent plug-ins by Waves. If a plug-in is not compatible with X-Ray, the plug-in's window will either flicker or not display properly. If you have any plug-ins that are affected by this, you can exclude the plug-n(s) from X-Ray by following the instructions below:

1. Open the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager (Tools > Cakewalk Plug-in Manager).
2. In the Plug-in Categories window, select the category that the plug-in you want to exclude is in.
3. In the Registered Plug-ins window, select the plug-in that you want to exclude.
4. If the plug-in is a DirectX effect or an MFX, write down (or select and copy) the CLSID value that's in the CLSID field at the bottom of the dialog.
5. If the plug-in is a VST or VSTi, write down the VST ID value that's in the VST ID field at the bottom of the dialog.
6. Close the Plug-in Manager dialog.
7. Use Notepad to open the XRayExclude.ini file that's in your SONAR program folder (C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Cakewalk\SONAR 8 Producer Edition).

Note: if you use SONAR Studio Edition, substitute “Producer Edition” with “Studio Edition”.

8. At the end of the file, find the [EffectProps View] section.

You will see entries such as the following:

; Waves SSL EQ Stereo
XRayExclude11=1397510483
XRayExclude12={E451379E-F7E1-4E82-98D9-BEB87AC45E90}

9. Exclude your plug-in by creating a blank line below the last entry in the [EffectProps View] section, and then typing:

;[name of your plug-in, but without brackets]
XRayExclude[type the next available number in XRayExclude list, but without brackets]=[VST ID number, with no brackets, or CLSID number, with curly braces at start and finish]

For example, if the last entry in the [EffectProps View] section was:

; Waves SSL EQ Stereo
XRayExclude11=1397510483
XRayExclude12={E451379E-F7E1-4E82-98D9-BEB87AC45E90}

If you wanted to exclude the Cakewalk FxDelay from the X-Ray Windows feature, after creating a blank line you would type:

; Cakewalk FxDelay
XRayExclude13={985DAF67-589F-4B8D-8BBC-D7AD651B9022}

If there was also a VST version of the Cakewalk FxDelay, you would add another line:

XRayExclude14=[some VST ID number, with no brackets]

10. Save and close the XRayExclude.ini file, and restart SONAR to implement your changes.

ORIGINAL: webseed

Additional update: After requesting a refund from Waves.com for the plugins that won't work on my system, they informed me that before they would refund my money, I would have to send them my iLok device which they would physically destroy!

If I don't send them my iLok, I get no refund, they say.

Nice customer service, huh? Their plugins don't work, and when you want your money back ($1000+), they want you to destroy your iLok device which likely contains licenses for other, unrelated items.

Note to everyone: Don't buy anything from Waves.com! I am now in the process of initiating a chargeback and filing complaints of fraudulent merchant practices against Waves.com. What a con! Needless to say, this company has turned a once-enthusiastic customer into a lifetime enemy. I wonder how they treat their other customers?

- Mike

ORIGINAL: Outrage!!!!!!!..................



If anyone out there finds a solution to this, please post it ASAP.