Sonar Event View just awful.

I just upgraded and I am not sure what the idea with the Event View is.
This thing is worse than flying Peter Griffin's cow-kite. 
Maybe I can configure this but it is simply bad.
 
This is why I have issues with subscriptions, because sometimes a company may feel compelled to make changes as a way of keeping subscriptions enticing.

AI

Audioicon
I just upgraded and I am not sure what the idea with the Event View is.

What exactly is wrong with it? May be you can post a screen-shot (if it looks so bad on your installation).

scook
I do not believe the sales model has anything to do with how the event list looks today. The event list looked the same in X1.

Come on scook. You really believe I think Cakewalk moved to subscription because of event viewer?
I am speaking in general, that when a software model is based on subscription, sometimes there is a pressure to deliver changes that may or may not be beneficial to users.

I believe similar concern has already been raised regarding changes to the Notation Editor:
Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Unbelievable-Notation-Editor-now-Worse-than-Ever-m3587785.aspx
 

scook
The point is, the sales model has nothing to do with the Event List. As proof consider how long the Event List has existed in its present form. Furthermore, the Event List has nothing to do with the post you linked. If you choose to roll it all up in a big ball, feel free to do so but I fail to see the value in the exercise.

Audioicon
I am speaking in general, that when a software model is based on subscription, sometimes there is a pressure to deliver changes that may or may not be beneficial to users.

There are a variety of reasons software changes happen most have little to do with the way the product is acquired by users. Keep in mind Cakewalk only sells their software. The purchase may be made in a single payment or spread out over time. There is no SONAR subscription.

You keep talking about point of sale and a specific feature.
I am a customer, and like a movie review, I find a feature/scene horrible.
 
I may have referenced the wrong feature, given I am not at my computer but after I upgraded I noticed editing notes have changed.

It's subjective and obviously, I am not going to get in a ping-pong like argument. 

Thanks for the conversation.
 

Audioicon
I just upgraded and I am not sure what the idea with the Event View is.
This thing is worse than flying Peter Griffin's cow-kite. 
Maybe I can configure this but it is simply bad.
 
This is why I have issues with subscriptions, because sometimes a company may feel compelled to make changes as a way of keeping subscriptions enticing.

AI

Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary.  Not sure what problem you have with it, not to mention it hasn't changed in many years.
 
JG
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 
 

jsg
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary. 

 
The last time I used Sonar was version 8.5.
I think I attempted to edit and noticed a larger text, I was not sure how this happened. Given your responds, this may have happened because the track it self or clip was zoomed?

I also noticed that the icons on the Piano roll looked different after I upgraded, I am certain things can be configured however, I was not ready for the change at the moment given I was just beginning to get my feet wet after an 8 year hiatus. 

"You keep talking about point of sale and a specific feature.
I am a customer, and like a movie review, I find a feature/scene horrible.
 
I may have referenced the wrong feature, given I am not at my computer but after I upgraded I noticed editing notes have changed.

It's subjective and obviously, I am not going to get in a ping-pong like argument. 

Thanks for the conversation."
 


I think it's actually the Piano Roll View you don't like, correct ?

jsg
 
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary.  
 

How does one make the text larger in Event View in Sonar? (Note I am using Sonar Platinum).   I have not been able to find where to do that.

My only suggestion is if you want to bring up valid points (complain or vent), bring ammunition .
Im actually confused about what it is you don't like. Hope it all works out though.
Make good music.
 
PS- For what's its worth, I've been using Sonar since Pro audio (around 1999) and the Event viewer hasn't changed much at all.

Audioicon

scook
I do not believe the sales model has anything to do with how the event list looks today. The event list looked the same in X1.

Come on scook. You really believe I think Cakewalk moved to subscription because of event viewer?
I am speaking in general, that when a software model is based on subscription, sometimes there is a pressure to deliver changes that may or may not be beneficial to users.

I believe similar concern has already been raised regarding changes to the Notation Editor:
Here: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Unbelievable-Notation-Editor-now-Worse-than-Ever-m3587785.aspx
 

You can believe this but the premise seems very faulty. You use a feature that has not changed to prove your point. It seems to me that CW has a lot of features to add to Sonar just from the feature requests forum alone. They don't need to change a feature that works well as it is simply to change it for change sake.  

promidi

jsg
 
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary.  
 

How does one make the text larger in Event View in Sonar? (Note I am using Sonar Platinum).   I have not been able to find where to do that.

You can do it in Windows.  If you're running Windows 7, right-click on the desktop and choose Personalize/Display (left-hand lower corner) and then Set Custom Text Size DPI.    Any changes you make to the font size will impact the event list.  If you're running Windows 10 I don't know if it works the same way.
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 
 

I have to admit, it does grizzle me when people come on here to complain, and then don't seem to have any idea what they are actually complaining about, or why they are complaining in the first place. Come on people, sort your crap out! Is this guy complaining about the events list or the prv? Both seem great to me in Sonar, and Sonar is not my only DAW.

chuckebaby
My only suggestion is if you want to bring up valid points (complain or vent), bring ammunition .
 

Sorry my friend I did not duck for cover. But became a little distracted by other life's event.

Today I received a message from Cakewalk, and while I have no issues with the message, the way parts of the message is worded may help explain my point.

When I upgraded, I did not read Terms, why? Because it does not matter to me, I just want to use the software regardless.

Now here is the message I received:
"Just days left before SONAR switches to simplified pricing! That means this is your last chance to upgrade or renew before the new pricing goes into effect on May 1st. You can read more about these pricing changes in our blog post here. Go to the Cakewalk Store today and snag an upgrade to SONAR Platinum to instantly gain access to exclusive features, like this month's Transform Tool! Offer ends midnight, April 30th."

My original point is, I feel if newly released features are tied to customer growth, then it adds or create a platform where I personally feel some things not necessarily needed are added constantly.

If someone ask me, what do you need from Cakewalk: I will say, stability. 

This type of practice is not isolated to Cakewalk, all companies do it, add a new color use same sound and change the name.

I should be able to complain and we can disagree, and that is okay.

Personally, I did not upgrade because of a feature or any email. I simply feel part of the Cakewalk journey. 

jsg

promidi

jsg
 
Sonar's event view is better than any other DAW.  It has color coding and you can make the text larger if necessary.  
 

How does one make the text larger in Event View in Sonar? (Note I am using Sonar Platinum).   I have not been able to find where to do that.

You can do it in Windows.  If you're running Windows 7, right-click on the desktop and choose Personalize/Display (left-hand lower corner) and then Set Custom Text Size DPI.    Any changes you make to the font size will impact the event list.  If you're running Windows 10 I don't know if it works the same way.
 
Jerry
www.jerrygerber.com
 
 
 

But that is what annoyed me, I did not make any changes to present this effect. I simply opened a previous project and the zoom is like crazy. I have very limited time and did not want to spend it messing with text I did not change.

Thanks my friend.