Sonar Newburyport Now Available

Here's what's new

https://www.cakewalk.com/.../Rolling-Updates#start

Yoro, you said a mouth full! (as they say on the Little Rascals).

Believe me, I don't want to nit pick the fine folks at Cake Central...but adding Landr to Sonar is a lot like adding Gobbler. An iffy company and premise that actually costs the end user more money and, to some, is of questionable value in the first place. Sort of like giving someone a puppy for Xmas. Vet trips and trips to the dog food and toy store are in your future...like it or not. And I am a lifelong dog lover. This is something you should decide for yourself. Of course you don't have to take advantage of this in any way...but I bet they had to have some sort of financial arrangement to make it happen...who knows to what, if any, benefit?

I'll report back here after I talk with Cake Wednesday. Even if you can safely uninstall I have a bad feeling that it will reinstall every time you do a sonar update...

Paul P

rtucker55
I see a LANDR entry in the Windows control panel, Programs and Features. I am going to give Cakewalk a call Wednesday to see if it will break anything if I uninstall it. It's just more crap I don't need or want...
 
I really feel we should have been given a Choice whether we wanted to install it or not.

Did you do a manual install of Newburyport ?
I'm wondering if it might not be possible to deselect it during a manual install.
 
I'll wait to see what happens with this (and other things) before updating.  I'm in no rush, Manchester works fine.
 

I used C3 to install the Sonar update and the 'user manual' update. I did not see anything that would have allowed me Not to install Landr.
 
Good thought about trying a manual update, I'll ask about that as well.

I can see, from the last two updates, which the previous one normally would have been a "major update", that this "subscription" model is killing the excitement of "upgrading".  

Don't hang me yet - let me explain...

They've done a great job, and it's nice to get "something" every month, but the anticipation of getting "new stuff" when purchasing a new edition every year, and the need to "entice us" to re-up throughout the year, seems to have died a horrendous death.

Normally we would have gotten a "package" of new features all at once, then dive headlong into them to learn them, but now we get them "dribbled out to us slowly", so I'm not really sure which way is better, piecemeal or lump...but it sure seems that "now" there is no "build up of excitement and anticipation" that used to be there...it seems that the element and build up of "excitement" that used to precede a new release has all but died for me with the new model...add to that the fact that we only had to "re-learn" once a year, and now, sort of, have to do it every month, and it becomes kind of "counter-productive" in an odd and round about way...( I know it's not "that much" so relax, it's just a thought)
 
I know many love it, and there are a lot of new features slated to be "dribbled out" all year...but, for me, it has kind of killed that "build up" of "excitement and anticipation" that always preceded the "upgrade every year" model, and it just seems to me now that that "thrill is gone"...

Just my feelings, and, of course, YMMV...

I solve that by only updating a few times a year. Generally, when word on the forum that an update is particularly solid. Then, it's like Christmas!
 
Dan

I just finished speaking with the Cakewalk Support guy.
 
-It is safe to uninstall Landr, you can actually do the uninstall from windows control panel/programs and features. At this point it should not re-install itself unless you tell it to in C3.
 
-You can de-select the Landr install if you have the 'Verbose' box checked in C3 or if you download the update from your account and do a manual install.
 
After checking we found that my C3 settings had been changed with the last C3 update hence the reason I was given no choice not to install Landr.
 
It appears my initial assumptions were wrong and I apologize for any stir I may have created.
I am Very Thankful for the Cakewalk Support Team as they are worth the entry fee alone!
 
Kind regards,
Rick

Mesh
....or just don't click on it?

 
Right...   like that's possible, just knowing it's there...     
 

stevec

Mesh
....or just don't click on it?

Right...   like that's possible, just knowing it's there...     
 

To be honest, I'm going to give Landr a try before dismissing it. First, I'll read that Cake article.......because inquiry minds want to know.  

I tried to uninstall LANDR, but it does not come off clean. After uninstall, there were many registry reference to LANDR (I stopped counting at 15), including some in Sonar settings referring to "now-removed" LANDR.
 
Fortunately, I had a restore point from prior to upgrading, and just went back.
 
 

Isn't doing the mastering bit part of the fun/need when using a Daw?

AllanH
I tried to uninstall LANDR, but it does not come off clean. After uninstall, there were many registry reference to LANDR (I stopped counting at 15), including some in Sonar settings referring to "now-removed" LANDR.
 
Fortunately, I had a restore point from prior to upgrading, and just went back.
 
 

Some of the best advice ever.

I forgot to check the firewall to see if LANDR had created any custom rules.