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Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
I must be doing something really stupid, but I'm reloading Sonar Platinum onto a new computer, along with all my VST's and I've encountered what should be easy to fix, but I can't see to sort it out.. I've reloaded Sonik Synth 2, and everything seems to have installed correctly.. It's a standard VST so I've installed it into - Computer/Programs86/IKMultimedia into a Sonik Synth 2 sub folder and I've pointed Sonar to it using the VST Plug In Manager... and scanned and rescanned but nada.. I've reinstalled Sonik Synth 2, and it doesn't pick it up.. I can see the folder, I can see the Instruments, Preferences, and Preset Folders along with the Sonik Synth 2.DLL file in the folder but nothing.. It doesn't even show up as a failed plug in.. Any suggestions?
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 11:13:02
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Is SONAR running as administrator? If not, it seems to be a requirement for all old 32bit IK synths.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 11:33:47
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Press P to go to Preferance, > File>VST settings, make sure rescan failed plug-ins is checked. Another option is to create a different vst folder and install Sonik Synth there. These older 32bit IK synth are notoriously pain in the neck to work with in 64bit sonar. I am sure you will not be the last person to complain about 32bit legacy IK plugins. I have basically given up on 32bit plugins since X3 days. I had acquired all 5 of IK32bit plugin synths in a group sale and then upgraded to ST3. St3 is 64bit only but it will import and play back all of these older library including Sonik Synth and ST2. If you have some cash to spare you might consider getting ST3 or the cheaper ST3 SE.
post edited by musichoo - 2015/10/27 11:44:31
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ccmacdon
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 16:53:06
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I'll double check, thanks!
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 16:54:41
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I can't see any failed plug ins and I think I've tried ticking the rescan failed plugins, but I'll give this another try. Thanks!
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 18:03:26
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1) Manually move or reinstall your 32-bit IKM plugin in \Program Files(x86)\Cakewalk\{Folder name} 2) Make sure this path is listed in the VST paths in your Sonar Preferences 3) Rescan 4) Run Sonar as admin
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/27 19:39:14
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/28 10:40:21
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Fixed.. sort of... by starting Sonar as administrator I was able to find Sonik Synth 2, set it up and authorize it.. however, I can only seem to get Sonik Synth 2 to run when I have loaded Sonar as administrator... if I don't load as admin I get a VST load error. Is this normal, should I always be running Sonar as Admin? I am also having difficulty getting Sonik Synth 2 to find the sounds, even though it's pointed to the correct directory.. I pointed it to the Sonik Synth 2 directory, and tried pointing it to the sub-directory and neither seemed to work.. Craig
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/28 11:11:03
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ccmacdon Fixed.. sort of... by starting Sonar as administrator I was able to find Sonik Synth 2, set it up and authorize it.. however, I can only seem to get Sonik Synth 2 to run when I have loaded Sonar as administrator... if I don't load as admin I get a VST load error. Is this normal
Yes, the old IK plug-ins were designed using a different version of Windows, in this case I believe it was XP. Since then, the Windows security model changed. As a result, the old IK plug-ins need access to a part of the registry which requires administrator rights. If you can locate the Sonik Synth 2 registry keys, it may be possible to change their permissions to allow SONAR to run without elevated privileges otherwise the host must run as administrator.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/28 14:49:38
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scook f you can locate the Sonik Synth 2 registry keys, it may be possible to change their permissions to allow SONAR to run without elevated privileges otherwise the host must run as administrator. I'd love to learn how to do this.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/28 14:55:47
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It may be mentioned in another thread on this forum. I don't have any IK synths so have not dealt with it myself. IK support should be able to identify the registry keys which need to be altered.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/29 10:45:31
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Gees... I'm starting to think that it's not worth the hassle to get Sonik Synth 2 working.. There were some really great sounds in it that I used on a number of recordings.. A lennon guitar (sounded like "a ticket to ride" guitar), and a beach boy vocal program that I used to beef up a lot of harmonies.. I will miss SS2 but I give up.. Craig
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/29 10:59:01
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Running SONAR as administrator is not the worst thing ever. It is unfortunate that IK choose not to update their software when the security model changed. I believe the change affecting this plug-in occurred during Vista. In addition to the registry issue there is the 32bit problem. The plug-in will never have a 64bit version or ever be updated again. It will always require additional software to work properly in a 64bit host. The best solution for 32bit plug-ins in a 64bit environment is retirement. If older projects containing 32bit plug-ins must be revisited, keep a 32bit host configured for the task.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/30 08:22:56
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ccmacdon Gees... I'm starting to think that it's not worth the hassle to get Sonik Synth 2 working.. There were some really great sounds in it that I used on a number of recordings.. A lennon guitar (sounded like "a ticket to ride" guitar), and a beach boy vocal program that I used to beef up a lot of harmonies.. I will miss SS2 but I give up.. Craig
I got ST3 SE bundled with Miroslav Philharmonic from Thomann.de. It's the best deal on IKM software so far. As you probably already know, ST3 SE is capable of importing legacy instruments, so that might solve the incompatibility issue for you. Hope that helps.
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Re: Sonar Platinum not finding Sonik Synth 2 VST?
2015/10/30 08:59:39
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I have Sampletank3 installed, and perhaps that is the way to proceed.. I'll look into importing these legacy sounds.. there are only a couple that are really important to me. Thanks. Craig
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