Sonar Platnum and Eucon

  

Zo
kids in bed rooms ....

Thank you Mr Anderton 

I don't  understand Mr Zo is that you teach 'kids' to work / have their bedrooms ...

Bull.... ??? Here or gearluts , whats problem? We are free   no?

Zo

Nino Vargas
I don't  understand Mr Zo is that you teach 'kids' to work / have their bedrooms ...

First stop your bul**** around all my post ...here , in gearsluts ....all over the place


Bul::::???? Really? And your acts?

Mr Zo ?

Anderton

Zo
so are you 100 % sur it s not the sonar plugin version that is no more up to what the app allows to do in 2016 ... ? 

The meters stopped working with 3.5 and I haven't figured out how to get them back yet, it was an option in the previous version. For all I know, Avid removed that feature...I simply haven't had that much time to play with the new software.
 
Bear in mind the 3.5 software only came out about a month ago and much of it is Pro Tools-specific. Cakewalk is not going to drop everything and re-design, for example, the Pro Channel EQ to make it look like the EQ in Pro Tools so Eucon can talk to it.
 
Avid recognizes that the world consists of more than Pro Tools. So IIRC the Artist Series will do HUI and Mackie control; that's what the virtual MIDI ports are for. As a result, I'd expect that non-Pro Tools programs like SONAR would be compatible only on the level of a Mackie control or HUI. However, by using the Eucon plug-in, SONAR can take advantage of some of the Pro Tools-specific features. Note that my tip also mentioned what did, and didn't work, with Eucon. 

 
Thks  , yep i saw the list you mentionned ..and even inserts sends ect doesn't work ...strange , but you might be right ...
 
Is it working (V3.5) on the euphonix /avId artist  ? i mean at least Meters ect ... basically the only compact (serous) options we have are Avid series or Slate Raven witch will handle the monitor side also ...
 

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Happy birthday so ....

I really feel there no insults at all in my post , if being rude kinda , or saying what i feel with no insults is felt like insults, sorry ....
I really do feel bakers don t care that mutch about pro control surfaces solution ( boutique or 3rd party) .... i wish they gave indicators that i m wrong , i hope i m wrong in fact ... not here to push my arguments or flatening my ego ....

All the link you gave i already had those infos ... this exactly what i was saying , the last update is a must for protools user , doesn t work well with sonar , i didn t said it was cakewalk fault , but are they actualy involved in working with avid and other 3rd party to enhance integrations , or is it secondary verus core app dev ...

Thks again MR Anderton for taking the time

Anderton

Zo
I really feel there no insults at all in my post , if being rude kinda , or saying what i feel with no insults is felt like insults, sorry ....
I really do feel bakers don t care that mutch about pro control surfaces solution ( boutique or 3rd party) .... i wish they gave indicators that i m wrong , i hope i m wrong in fact ... not here to push my arguments or flatening my ego 

In October Cakewalk introduced bi-directional control with Softube's Console 1, which is one of the most advanced control surfaces in the industry (and Cakewalk is one of only two companies to offer this level of support at present). So either they do care, or they have a very strange way of showing they don't care... 
 
What seemed insulting was saying that Cakewalk doesn't treat their customers like professionals. SONAR offers DSD import, plug-in load balancing, Mix Recall, VocalSync, linear-phase multiband compression as well as linear-phase EQ with mid/side options, tempo detection, the first non-Melodyne ARA region FX (Drum Replacer), upsampling, VST3 input bus support, etc.
 
Remember there are also people who say Cakewalk should be more like FL Studio and pay attention to people who make beats. You guys can get together over drinks sometime, and have an argument 

 
All True , for sure , it is also true that you can't call yourself an industrie beast if you don't offer at least what a professional needs at a basic level !! I know you 're in the same matrix as me when it comes to workflow / integration  specialy as the daws offers more and more powerfull tools ...
 
The ability for a professional to not rationalise certain tasks is crucial at a very deep brain level to be on the main task  : "ART"  .... the control surface is in my book number one and the success of console One show's it (i must point out that this concept was born a day while i had the softube beast Niklas on the phone when i was explaining him what concept i proposed to Focusrite / Novation automap (Eric at that time) for a SSL based control surface , they didn't paid attention and softube made it  !!! thumbs up for that !!my argument was that everybody has at least one SSL CS type plugin (Waves , UAD , Daws, Deuende ect ) , they went their own plugin route , i was more one a more general surface , where you point the dll of the plugin to control and done ...) anyway , i was hoping that Tascam and cakewalk would do some , but with time , my hopes are gone ...
 
Yep Cakewalk developed and offers a  lot of great additions for real as you pointed out, but a Ferrari beast engine without a good control / direction is nothing ... you must hear in my words frustration , not hate at all ... i know the bakers are beast when it come to dev ....
 
I'm at this time making a preset with AZ controler for maschine studio , it's a beast , but still i need real faders and metering feedbacks ..Ect ....(console with fader and a general mackie control is the next thing i'm gonna lobby to them)
 
So to go back a little on the main issue , to tell you the truth , everytime a product supports fully sonar , i'm happily surprised , it says a lot ...sure 3rd party have the main responsability but i feel maybe a little passivity from the cake side  , for sure they cannot be on all "fronts" but DAW concept is really deeply linked with the notion of control , our entire job is linked to the concept of interfacing with something digital ...
 
 
I will end with the fact that i also think a superbe control surface made by the brand itself with the maximum of 3rd party daws compability will push more and more sales ....and credibility .... if i didn't teached with sonar at the SAE , none of the students would have heard of it , because it's lack of presence around pro studio's , why ? marketing , and  solid studio level integration solutions , sad cause the software itself kills a  lot of so called industry leaders ....
 
Maybe time to make my own control surface ....finally instead of counting on others ....;)
 
 

Anderton

Zo
I will end with the fact that i also think a superbe control surface made by the brand itself with the maximum of 3rd party daws compability will push more and more sales ....and credibility .... 

The problem is that Cakewalk and Roland tried that already, and it was a commercial epic fail.

yes, but why did it fail? we all know the cakewalk/roland thing didn't last very long, but know nothing of the private detail as to why? i'd hope the cakewalk/gibson thing is a happier thing!! and surely tascam is an obvious opportunity, a la presonus' hw/sw thing, ableton's, etc
/fwiw