dgrm44
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Sonar Quickfix
Ok, so I am confused...what is this quickfix? Is it a patch? Does anyone know what the plan for X1 is?
Can someone tell the user base what the plan is for X1? Are we getting more patches? More quickfixes?
Again, I am confused...cakewalk needs to COMMUNICATE its short and long term plan for X1 with us.
Meanwhile I am having fun learning Logic Studio.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/09 12:56:17
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dgrm44
Ok, so I am confused...what is this quickfix? Is it a patch? Does anyone know what the plan for X1 is?
Can someone tell the user base what the plan is for X1? Are we getting more patches? More quickfixes?
Again, I am confused...cakewalk needs to COMMUNICATE its short and long term plan for X1 with us.
Meanwhile I am having fun learning Logic Studio.
A Quickfix is a patch that is less tested - isn't really that hard to figure out if you exercise your option to READ ( http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2274862 ). Seriously. Troll somewhere else. Maybe Cakewalk mapped the whole thing out, and you didn't read that either.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/09 12:58:46
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They have communicated nicely. The quick fix is a quick patch that fixes a few bugs. CW decided to put it out sooner then normal so that we could have fixes in a more timely manner. This is a new thing with CW. Many of us greet it with open arms.
As to the future CW has not said. Nor is it normal for a developer to talk about what their plans are.
We can be sure X1 will be further developed though. There are many things that still need addressing. Staff View for example.
This is the first effort from CW with X1. It will take time to see it fully realized.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/09 13:04:59
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Ehhh.. Did you clicked on the link at the top and did you just read what is been told there?
It was very clear to me...
The updates are... ehhh.... updates...
And the hotfix is a not fully tested first part of the coming update. It is not a full update - only a part of it. It is given to us as a fast fix for some problems, but it CAN be buggy, because it is not fully tested. Installing this CAN introduce new problems. That is clearly stated - and that's the reason you can do a simple roll-back if you have problems with it.
That said - I have tested the hotfix and everything on my system works without an problem.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/09 13:20:00
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Its a floor wax AND a dessert topping! 
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
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Yes guys, I did read the post. No I don't agree that developers rarely discuss their plans with their clients (btw, we are the clients). No I am not trolling. Also, I am not apologizing for my frustration with Cakewalk. If you are a fanboi then glad you are satisfied, but fanbois rarely push companies to improve their products or their communication with their clients.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 17:43:00
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you wanna push the company to be better than why dont you keep up with times and read about whats going on here and post something productive..you think your helping?..your to lazy to click on the link so you start your own thread to make us do your work?
maybe you should be on top of logic as well i hear they need some help with their software problems.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 17:44:27
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dgrm44
Yes guys, I did read the post. No I don't agree that developers rarely discuss their plans with their clients (btw, we are the clients). No I am not trolling. Also, I am not apologizing for my frustration with Cakewalk. If you are a fanboi then glad you are satisfied, but fanbois rarely push companies to improve their products or their communication with their clients.
You have no clue about what I have done through the years in getting CW to include new things or fix other things. You have no clue what power this forum and the old Sonar forum has had in the development of Sonar. It is posts of your sort that get nothing done or fix anything. You make a statement that is wrong in every detail and when confronted with the truth all you can say is we are fanbois. I don't share your frustration with CW because I am on good terms with CW. I know that in time I will get everything I want from them. This is because I have a long history with them and am willing to work with them. They have come through in the past and will come through in the future. We are not their clients either, we are their customers. I buy their program and I am on this forum. I am not a client. I do know that they will listen to people that approach them with some respect. Nor are you going to find this a friendly place if you are going to call us names.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 17:51:43
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You have no clue about what I have done through the years in getting CW to include new things or fix other things. You have no clue what power this forum and the old Sonar forum has had in the development of Sonar. It is posts of your sort that get nothing done or fix anything. You make a statement that is wrong in every detail and when confronted with the truth all you can say is we are fanbois. I don't share your frustration with CW because I am on good terms with CW. I know that in time I will get everything I want from them. This is because I have a long history with them and am willing to work with them. They have come through in the past and will come through in the future. We are not their clients either, we are their customers. I buy their program and I am on this forum. I am not a client. I do know that they will listen to people that approach them with some respect. Nor are you going to find this a friendly place if you are going to call us names. +Infinity to Infinity John
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 17:57:53
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infinity +1 ;)
and i can say that you will see long time users being more rude to cakewalk than new cats ...
yep our relation is pationnate cause we love the product and in person , i have tested pretty all daws and sonar with its default is above !!
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 19:14:48
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John
dgrm44
Yes guys, I did read the post. No I don't agree that developers rarely discuss their plans with their clients (btw, we are the clients). No I am not trolling. Also, I am not apologizing for my frustration with Cakewalk. If you are a fanboi then glad you are satisfied, but fanbois rarely push companies to improve their products or their communication with their clients.
You have no clue about what I have done through the years in getting CW to include new things or fix other things. You have no clue what power this forum and the old Sonar forum has had in the development of Sonar. It is posts of your sort that get nothing done or fix anything.
You make a statement that is wrong in every detail and when confronted with the truth all you can say is we are fanbois.
I don't share your frustration with CW because I am on good terms with CW. I know that in time I will get everything I want from them. This is because I have a long history with them and am willing to work with them. They have come through in the past and will come through in the future. We are not their clients either, we are their customers.
I buy their program and I am on this forum. I am not a client. I do know that they will listen to people that approach them with some respect.
Nor are you going to find this a friendly place if you are going to call us names.
John, Congratulations. I didn't realize all of 8.5.3 bugs were magically working on your system and not mine. That is awesome. I have been with Sonar long enough and shelled out enough cash that I have earned the right to speak my honest opinion about the company and their products. I am not some newbie. I think that the people that are happy with X1 are not really using it like some of us are. For instance, do you use the midi with virtual instruments? if so tell me you have no issues with x1? no snap setting issues? not even when dragging a note to another position? no goofy keyboard shortcuts stepping on each other (prv show grid vs. show hide inspector). Why doesn't the multidock expand to the top of the screen? Why does the show/hide bus still creep up the screen with each click? Why does the list go on and on and it seems like this product is held together by spit and duct tape? I really want X1 to be great, but I wanted that faster than it looks like they can deliver. Meanwhile I am learning Logic....and so far I don't see any issues yet...but, I haven't used every aspect of it yet. So maybe I will run across some issues.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 19:44:14
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I am not some newbie. I think that the people that are happy with X1 are not really using it like some of us are.
You know, it gets really tiresome to keep hearing this junk. Like, because some of us aren't having problems we MUST NOT be serious users, right? I use midi with virtual instruments. I don't have any snap setting issues. I learn new stuff and don't keep trying to use a new program using methods from an old one. Hey, if we're gonna play the generalization game, how about this. Maybe some of us just know how to set our systems up better? Maybe some of us don't use crappy pirated plug ins? Maybe some of us actually read the manuals and watch the tutorials? Just sayin'....
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 19:49:32
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Yes guys, I did read the post. No I don't agree that developers rarely discuss their plans with their clients (btw, we are the clients). No I am not trolling. Also, I am not apologizing for my frustration with Cakewalk. If you are a fanboi then glad you are satisfied, but fanbois rarely push companies to improve their products or their communication with their clients.
You have no clue about what I have done through the years in getting CW to include new things or fix other things. You have no clue what power this forum and the old Sonar forum has had in the development of Sonar. It is posts of your sort that get nothing done or fix anything.
You make a statement that is wrong in every detail and when confronted with the truth all you can say is we are fanbois.
I don't share your frustration with CW because I am on good terms with CW. I know that in time I will get everything I want from them. This is because I have a long history with them and am willing to work with them. They have come through in the past and will come through in the future. We are not their clients either, we are their customers.
I buy their program and I am on this forum. I am not a client. I do know that they will listen to people that approach them with some respect.
Nor are you going to find this a friendly place if you are going to call us names.
John, Congratulations. I didn't realize all of 8.5.3 bugs were magically working on your system and not mine. That is awesome. I have been with Sonar long enough and shelled out enough cash that I have earned the right to speak my honest opinion about the company and their products. I am not some newbie. I think that the people that are happy with X1 are not really using it like some of us are.
For instance, do you use the midi with virtual instruments? if so tell me you have no issues with x1? no snap setting issues? not even when dragging a note to another position? no goofy keyboard shortcuts stepping on each other (prv show grid vs. show hide inspector). Why doesn't the multidock expand to the top of the screen? Why does the show/hide bus still creep up the screen with each click? Why does the list go on and on and it seems like this product is held together by spit and duct tape?
I really want X1 to be great, but I wanted that faster than it looks like they can deliver. Meanwhile I am learning Logic....and so far I don't see any issues yet...but, I haven't used every aspect of it yet. So maybe I will run across some issues.
i notice you dont list your specs..lke your computer..interface..could it be your using outdated products that were used when dinosoars roamed the earth and you magicaly excpect sonar to work on it? i see this in a few users who dont want to list thre specs in fear of people knowing the real problem. you cant run sonar on a ibm386.just so you know.
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dgrm44
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 19:53:10
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rscain. I have spent over 10K on my software and hardware. I don't use pirated 'ANYTHING' because I dont like when people steal MYSTUFF...and I am not a hypocrite.
When you drag a note in prv and you are trying to move it from 1/16 ahead of your current position and snap to grid doesn't work...you mean that doesn't frustrate you to no end????
Do you not do a lot of finite midi sequencing with different timings and note values?
When you add this up over the course of thousands of notes in a project this is a BIG PAIN IN MY ASS!!!! and, to anyone else that does a lot of REAL WORLD MIDI SEQUENCING. oh....and one more thing.....DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! You should already know this. Talk to any PRO that has tried to use MIDI within Sonar X1. Go to your local studios. Talk to them. Yes....DUHHHHHHHH!!!!! You are not a real user of midi. Your just not, otherwise you would already get this and I wouldn't have to keep saying DUHHHH to you. Also, why when you unfreeze you don't get consistent results showing in the PRV anymore? Try it with session drummer? Nope, sure you haven't.
Sorry, but my patience for fanbois is at an end.
btw, don't post that I need to increase magnetic strength. It is already set to high.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:06:47
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John, Congratulations. I didn't realize all of 8.5.3 bugs were magically working on your system and not mine. That is awesome. I have been with Sonar long enough and shelled out enough cash that I have earned the right to speak my honest opinion about the company and their products. I am not some newbie. I think that the people that are happy with X1 are not really using it like some of us are. For instance, do you use the midi with virtual instruments? if so tell me you have no issues with x1? no snap setting issues? not even when dragging a note to another position? no goofy keyboard shortcuts stepping on each other (prv show grid vs. show hide inspector). Why doesn't the multidock expand to the top of the screen? Why does the show/hide bus still creep up the screen with each click? Why does the list go on and on and it seems like this product is held together by spit and duct tape? I really want X1 to be great, but I wanted that faster than it looks like they can deliver. Meanwhile I am learning Logic....and so far I don't see any issues yet...but, I haven't used every aspect of it yet. So maybe I will run across some issues. Yes I use virtual synths and MIDI. The question is rude. I do audio. I do MIDI. I do video. I do it all. Sonar is not the only DAW I own nor is it the only one I have used. BTW I have done ads for foundations I have a video going all over the country for an organization that found it very useful in promoting what they do. I rather have them happy then anyone else. What you don't realize is many of us take what we do seriously. People count on us not just for our creative ability but for production. It bothers me that so many take the members here for granted. Most of which have done outstanding work. Some don't tout what they do but because they don't doesn't mean they don't do anything. The most modest of us are modest because it is our way. Don't mistake that for incompetence.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:12:57
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dgrm44
btw, don't post that I need to increase magnetic strength. It is already set to high.
...user error....set the magnetic strength to 'off', this will cure any snap problems you might be having...and if you have any other specific problems perhaps we can help with those as well.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:14:33
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For a non newbie he sure sounds like one.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:16:29
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Lets say this fixes it...as I have not tested that yet. But why would it not behave consistently with HIGH STRENGTH? One day it is fine, the next it disappears completely...also with soft synths as added to the project.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:20:26
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Magnetic strength is saved per project and screen set so it can can come and go with each project and screen set. If you set it to 'off' it turns off the magnetic strength setting and just goes to straight snap (or not if your snap is set to off). SUPER confusing to me till I got the pardigm.
I NEVER got high strength to do anything that I could relate to and was always unusable. Any other specific problems?
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:23:12
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rscain. I have spent over 10K on my software and hardware. I don't use pirated 'ANYTHING' because I dont like when people steal MYSTUFF...and I am not a hypocrite.
When you drag a note in prv and you are trying to move it from 1/16 ahead of your current position and snap to grid doesn't work...you mean that doesn't frustrate you to no end????
Do you not do a lot of finite midi sequencing with different timings and note values?
When you add this up over the course of thousands of notes in a project this is a BIG PAIN IN MY ASS!!!! and, to anyone else that does a lot of REAL WORLD MIDI SEQUENCING. oh....and one more thing.....DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! You should already know this. Talk to any PRO that has tried to use MIDI within Sonar X1. Go to your local studios. Talk to them. Yes....DUHHHHHHHH!!!!! You are not a real user of midi. Your just not, otherwise you would already get this and I wouldn't have to keep saying DUHHHH to you. Also, why when you unfreeze you don't get consistent results showing in the PRV anymore? Try it with session drummer? Nope, sure you haven't.
Sorry, but my patience for fanbois is at an end.
btw, don't post that I need to increase magnetic strength. It is already set to high.
OK, you got me. You're a complete Pro and I'm just a rank amatuer. I shouldn't even be on the same forums as you. Heck, I think I'll just have my internet disconnected and sell all my gear and become a cook or something. BTW: X1 works for me. Let me know when you get it working for you.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:24:03
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rscain. I have spent over 10K on my software and hardware. I don't use pirated 'ANYTHING' because I dont like when people steal MYSTUFF...and I am not a hypocrite.
When you drag a note in prv and you are trying to move it from 1/16 ahead of your current position and snap to grid doesn't work...you mean that doesn't frustrate you to no end????
Do you not do a lot of finite midi sequencing with different timings and note values?
When you add this up over the course of thousands of notes in a project this is a BIG PAIN IN MY ASS!!!! and, to anyone else that does a lot of REAL WORLD MIDI SEQUENCING. oh....and one more thing.....DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! You should already know this. Talk to any PRO that has tried to use MIDI within Sonar X1. Go to your local studios. Talk to them. Yes....DUHHHHHHHH!!!!! You are not a real user of midi. Your just not, otherwise you would already get this and I wouldn't have to keep saying DUHHHH to you. Also, why when you unfreeze you don't get consistent results showing in the PRV anymore? Try it with session drummer? Nope, sure you haven't.
Sorry, but my patience for fanbois is at an end.
btw, don't post that I need to increase magnetic strength. It is already set to high.
hey..that stuff works for me.looks like all that money you put into your 10k system isnt really working.were did you order those defected computer parts from.maybe if you sent them a screen shot you could get your money back.sorry to hear about your problems...anything else we can do to help?
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:27:49
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oh crap.... am I a fanboi because I tried to help?
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:29:08
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I wish that friends and relatives of cakewalk would stop posting as fanbois here.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:31:50
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dgrm, Are you looking for some help or just being a d!ck? If you want some help then ask for it. If not then stop wasting forum space and our time.
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2011/04/11 20:32:46
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it just shocks me at how good people larry and john are.you guys are really nice.i wouldnt even help people like this.i know im not always the nicest guy to troll behavior but seriously.i cant do it.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:34:57
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it just shocks me at how good people larry and john are.you guys are really nice.i wouldnt even help people like this.i know im not always the nicest guy to troll behavior but seriously.i cant do it.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:35:36
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it just shocks me at how good people larry and john are.you guys are really nice.i wouldnt even help people like this.i know im not always the nicest guy to troll behavior but seriously.i cant do it.
Yeah I always assume someone's OK till they prove otherwise. dgrm has submitted his proof. I'm with you - and finished helping.
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:36:08
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chuckebaby
it just shocks me at how good people larry and john are.you guys are really nice.i wouldnt even help people like this.i know im not always the nicest guy to troll behavior but seriously.i cant do it.
Chuck I thought I was being mean and harsh. LOL 
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Re:Sonar Quickfix
2011/04/11 20:41:01
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chuckebaby
it just shocks me at how good people larry and john are.you guys are really nice.i wouldnt even help people like this.i know im not always the nicest guy to troll behavior but seriously.i cant do it.
Chuck I thought I was being mean and harsh. LOL
no john.your one of the nicest people i know here..larry too.man today has been full of fun hu?..wow.
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