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2017/09/19 21:45:28 (permalink)

Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late

So, I've just spent the last 45 mins between looking high and low all over Sonar's worthless site looking for just ONE 800# so I could reactivate my Platinum subscription, AND update my card on file.  Then, I resorted to calling the Sweetwater Sound 800#, only to find they weren't aware of any number, so they gave me Gibson's 800#, and I had to waste 15 mins only to be told that Cakewalk handled all of this support in-house. No matter what Cakewalk might think of themselves, THIS IS NOT SUPPORT!! This is more like dealing with the IRS!  And LITERALLY it's "Don't call us, we'll call you!"  I've been a Cakewalk customer since '88, or DOS ver. 5.0, and it's NEVER been this bad.  So, I'm coming here, where the serfs gather for their daily crumbs, to see if I might be worthy, sire, of a direct link where I can take care of this matter meself.  Could you be so generous, sire?  Oh! And the King's Majesty Cakewalk Kingdom will hear of this.

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 21:54:56 (permalink)
It would probably be easier to private mail one of the cakewalk staff (Ryan etc). That is the only way to get a fast response in your situation.
 
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 22:13:30 (permalink)
I never spend time up here in this part of the forum but I can tell King Conga this: You come here completely belittling Cakewalk and then ask for help in the most sarcastic way. I am sure you with find help regardless. But you are way off base. It's not this forum's fault that you can't make contact. Who knows what numbers you have tried. 
You should rethink your attitude before unloading like you did. 


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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 22:14:21 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby glennstanton 2017/09/21 17:47:03
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So, I've just spent the last 45 mins between looking high and low all over Sonar's worthless site looking for just ONE 800# so I could reactivate my Platinum subscription, AND update my card on file.  Then, I resorted to calling the Sweetwater Sound 800#, only to find they weren't aware of any number, so they gave me Gibson's 800#, and I had to waste 15 mins only to be told that Cakewalk handled all of this support in-house. No matter what Cakewalk might think of themselves, THIS IS NOT SUPPORT!! This is more like dealing with the IRS!  And LITERALLY it's "Don't call us, we'll call you!"  I've been a Cakewalk customer since '88, or DOS ver. 5.0, and it's NEVER been this bad.  So, I'm coming here, where the serfs gather for their daily crumbs, to see if I might be worthy, sire, of a direct link where I can take care of this matter meself.  Could you be so generous, sire?  Oh! And the King's Majesty Cakewalk Kingdom will hear of this.


Why would you want to do either of those things over the phone?
 
Can both of those things not be handled on-line at cakewalk.com under your account?
 
Under my Account ->  Cakewalk Store Activity "View Your Cakewalk Store Activity, Change Your Payment Method, etc"
 
The shop Area should be pretty clear on the renewal part.
 
Now I can't see detail in either of these sections since I have a lifetime subscription.  But picking up the phone would be the last resort if the website isn't working.  
 
Requests of the nature you have outlined should not be handled by "support" in this day and age.  It is handled by the web interface they spent time to create to save resources for actual support that is required.  Welcome to 2017.  
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 22:17:11 (permalink)
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reactivate my Platinum subscription,

http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR/Renew
 
King Conga
update my card on file.

Not sure what this means but likely an Account support issue. All support contacts are here


 
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 22:42:14 (permalink)
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  So, I'm coming here, where the serfs gather for their daily crumbs, to see if I might be worthy, sire, of a direct link where I can take care of this matter meself.  Could you be so generous, sire?  Oh! And the King's Majesty Cakewalk Kingdom will hear of this.

 
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/19 23:06:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/09/20 03:08:59
As said, all done on the account page including any updates to your credit card info. 
 
I think pretty near every company I deal with has a user account page where you do business and pay your bills. 
I even order my annual fill up of Propane using the companies "my account" page. Easy peasy. 
In this day and age this is the way we roll. The telephone is a device that was popular in the 20th century and is quickly fading as a means of communicating. What's a phone for??,, oh right it's for sending text messages and checking your e mail and taking photos. 

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 00:47:20 (permalink)
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Add another user to my blocked list.




 

 
I guess some people just find it easier to deny the truth and . . .
 

 
remember when you blocked sanderxpander? lol, I am surprised there are any posts you can read , you've just about blocked everyone, seems if someone doesn't agree with you or they aren't praising SONAR or cakewalk you block them. Wake up and smell the roses 'man', and don't be so afraid of reality.
 
 

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 02:24:25 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby pizzmoe00 2017/09/20 16:13:45
serfs
 
That made me chuckle.
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 04:04:11 (permalink)
Some people just don't know how to ask for help.
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 04:06:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/09/20 17:43:04
Call me old fashioned, but I think it's good to remember that we can try to help the Cakewalk team, or anything else we benefit from or enjoy, and not always just the other way around. We are all people after all.
 
If we think that Cakewalk is some huge company with abundant resources and staff, I think we could be surprised.
Over the years I have come to appreciate Cakewalk as a company with dedicated, hard working staff, but of course probably limited on staff and resources, and in this climate the future is never clear or written in stone.
 
I hope the best for Cakewalk and the team, and of course Sonar, and as a customer I hope to be part of the ride because as a new user, I really like Sonar..
 
I've witnessed with companies as huge as Microsoft the people complaining about game support and things in forums, only to see the games themselves be unexpectedly discontinued, and when you saw the negative comments beforehand in the forums, you wouldn't blame the techies for just giving up. We forget that the majority of happy customers don't need to say anything, so we often just witness the negative experiences.
 
Tech issues of all sorts can get frustrating, I understand this from both sides of a tech desk. There are so many compatibility issues with software nowadays. I'm a Windows enthusiast, but I'm first to acknowledge that Windows updates have often been the source of quite a few issues with all sorts of companies and types of software/hardware, and it must be frustrating for many a manufacturer. An example of this would be game stuttering (for some users) since the Windows 10 Creators update, something which will apparently be addressed in October's Windows 10 Fall update. The same went for webcams a year ago, etc. 
 

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 10:51:45 (permalink)
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Add another user to my blocked list.


remember when you blocked sanderxpander? lol, I am surprised there are any posts you can read , you've just about blocked everyone, seems if someone doesn't agree with you or they aren't praising SONAR or cakewalk you block them. Wake up and smell the roses 'man', and don't be so afraid of reality.

 
Dude your just as much a homer as I am. If someone complains about your dear Reaper, you get all upset.
So you need to "smell the roses" too.
 
Sander has offered a lot of great ideas to this forum, that's something I couldn't block, I unblocked him a long time ago. I realized I was wrong. Im human. Heck, I might even be wrong now.
 
I block everyone ? Prove it. Post some links, or are you just talking out of your tail pipe as usual.
 
That's what I thought
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 14:55:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2017/09/20 17:44:02
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Wake up and smell the roses 'man', and don't be so afraid of reality.

 
Well I live in a reality-based world, and the real issue is the following.
 
From self-checkout at supermarkets, to voicemail hell when you're trying to find out why AT&T double-billed you, to software tech support, companies are trying to get rid of expensive and time-consuming human interaction. I'm not saying I like that, I'm just saying that's reality.
 
This is because people want to pay rock-bottom prices for products. You can't pay the lowest possible price and get the best possible service.
 
The solution for most companies is to offer ways other than calling a human to resolve a problem. They expect you to go to the web site, read the FAQs, and go through the channels that have been set up specifically for resolving problems. That frees up the few humans who are left to deal with the cases that can't be resolved through existing channels. 
 
The other solution companies choose is paid support. However most DAW companies don't really need to do that, because companies like obedia.com solve problems for a fee.
 
So the bottom line is this: accept the way things are in return for low prices, or be willing to pay more to change the way things are. I prefer the former, and I suspect most other people do as well.
 

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 15:36:56 (permalink)
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I never spend time up here in this part of the forum but I can tell King Conga this: You come here completely belittling Cakewalk and then ask for help in the most sarcastic way. I am sure you with find help regardless. But you are way off base. It's not this forum's fault that you can't make contact. Who knows what numbers you have tried. 
You should rethink your attitude before unloading like you did. 



Ditto.

Statistically speaking it's likely a User problem. If not, the best way to ask for support is to belittle those who would help you and condemn everyone you can while asking. Wait, no, that's not here, that's when dealing with the cable company. *Even then not really recommended.

So if all is so bad it's better if one just jumps ship without waiting, it would be more satisfying I'm sure.

Best of luck...

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 17:27:25 (permalink)
Check out the Store sections of the forums. 5 days ago Seth posted instructions and an outline of Cake's support system. I was being grouchy and asked for a clear description of the system. Thankfully it was provided. Too bad it's in an area where most will miss it. As supporters of the company we should follow those instructions and provide feedback when the system works or fails to work.

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 17:37:41 (permalink)
For Matron Landslide...out of your response this is what appeared to be the takeaway.

Quote:
"Wake up and smell the roses 'man', and don't be so afraid of reality", Man was italicized.

Is this a feminist reply? *I don't pick a "side" of any issues related to that, just asking if gender has entered the discussion. 😊

I have observed that despite the poor presentation of the OP's question there are many forum members that are earnestly trying to help.

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 20:01:42 (permalink)
ahh, not even worth it
post edited by chuckebaby - 2017/09/20 20:22:54

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 20:39:23 (permalink)
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Not sure what this means but likely an Account support issue. All support contacts are here
 



True.
 
But I for one cannot find a phone support number either, even given this hint, which was the OP's original issue.
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 20:51:59 (permalink)
You can't always get what you want


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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/20 22:39:26 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ampfixer 2017/09/20 23:14:51
I can definitely understand feeling frustrated when attempting to contact a company. I've been there myself. Our old phone number is no longer available which can absolutely be a cause of frustration for people digging up our phone number from manuals printed ~ 30 years ago. Unfortunately it happens.
 
For whatever it's worth, this customer was able to open a ticket with our Customer Service department by filling out the support form at http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Email and a reply was returned almost exactly an hour later.
 
If anyone needs official assistance for account or order related issues of this nature, please reach out to us at http://www.cakewalk.com/Support . We're not perfect but our support folks are definitely available for issues like this.

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 01:48:43 (permalink)
I didn't think the OP was out of line. I've felt that way myself dealing with the power company. Hope you got your issues resolved, OP, and a kudos to Ryan for helping him out!

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 01:57:03 (permalink)


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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 05:02:52 (permalink)
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It's sad when people can't address salient points via logic, and instead appropriate the words of others to try and lend an air of authenticity.

I explained why companies are ditching phone support, and Ryan confirmed how using intended support channels gets results. Case closed.

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 09:17:36 (permalink)
In the back of my head there is always this support thingy - if to upgrade SA2015 and be current, and maybe getting Pro - what will you experience in overlapping stuff when installing - one installation sinking another and things like that - and will there be any help from Cakewalk solving this at all?
 
I had those upgrading from X3 - and it remain not pleasent experience. It takes months to get reply from Cakewalk, at the time at least - if at all. I put support mail to Cake about an upgrade of Waves plugins suddenly made Sonar crash on scan  still no reply of that one - that was two years ago. But as always - Waves support is topnotch - and it was solved in hours.
 
It's always been the culprit of Sonar - support - what can you expect?
 
Reading Ryan Munnis post was a good read though. Maybe something improved.
 
And for the girls spending time moaning that OP was not polite enough - just show ignorance over facts of life.
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 09:41:20 (permalink)
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Actually"not knowing" a subject does indeed make a person ignorant of that subject.

Not wanting to know a subject could show a person is disinterested in same, or unconcerned.

As in; many folks have no idea how the internet gets to them or even works, but they not really interested in that part, only that they're "connected" as long as they pay their bill and the green light on the "thingy" is on. They're ignorant about the networks and wiring outside and disinterested in finding out more of what happens after they press "send".

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/21 09:42:44 (permalink)
Like chucke said..... it's not worth it. 😉 I'm outta here....

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/22 09:04:55 (permalink)
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You can't always get what you want



True. And I do not argue with Anderton's point about the need to keep support costs low if you want an affordable application. And I have no argument at all with a decision to provide support via a comprehensive knowledge base and email or whatever. The quality and accessibility of the support could still be an issue, but the method of providing it is irrelevant if it is fast and easy to use. But here's a point to consider. The OP was upset because he had spent a lot of time and experienced frustration trying to find the support telephone number, apparently because there is no such number. That time and frustration could have been completely avoided if there was a clear and prominent statement on the Cakewalk website that there is no phone support number available. Since this is such an obvious solution, I can only consider that such a statement is not prominently accessible, because it would be a disincentive to buy the product if someone doing due diligence prior to purchase were to find it. Anyone who has already purchased the product will probably eventually make that discovery himself after unnecessarily wasting time and experiencing frustration, and a few may take up the issue on these forums (which are pretty easy to find and usually very helpful) only to be derided for expressing his frustration. A simple link for support telephone number leading to a statement that there is currently no telephone number would have avoided at least some of the OP's frustration. 
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/22 09:27:26 (permalink)


just a sec

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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/22 13:14:51 (permalink)
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True. And I do not argue with Anderton's point ....

Could have stopped there. The support policy changed in April 2016. There was announcement about the change that was up for some time. The support page on the Cakewalk website is clear about how to contact them. Notice in addition to not having a phone number the fax and tty information are missing. Most companies list the available services, not the services that are unavailable. My initial response to the OP was an attempt to help resolve the issues using the tools available. I will leave the speculation to you.
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Re: Sonar Support SURE Has Fallen of Late 2017/09/22 14:50:53 (permalink)
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The OP was upset because he had spent a lot of time and experienced frustration trying to find the support telephone number, apparently because there is no such number. That time and frustration could have been completely avoided if there was a clear and prominent statement on the Cakewalk website that there is no phone support number available.



The Home Page for Cakewalk.com lists Support in the Nav Bar. In the Support menu, there's an option to Contact Support. The options are listed clearly. A user hoping that there are secret options hidden somewhere is probably not something Cakewalk anticipated.

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