Sonar Vs Studio v2

I have not noticed that anyone has been talking about Studio One anymore...is that due to the stability of Sonar are they still things wrong with X1?
 
Have we had any updates on what is making waves within the industry?
 
I noticed that there has been a long long debate on Pro tools but is the real champion of the DAW world here finally, the "all things to music studio's???"
 
Studio One v2

I must confess I was hoping someone would start another Sonar Vs another DAW of your choice here thread as there hasn't been one this week yet.

Now I'll just settle back and enjoy......

Studio One seemed interesting to me,  but it lacks two features...staff view and the ability to score to pic...so a non-starter.  Isn't that ironic!

DP 8 is suppose to be ready for windows,  but I checked out a couple of forums and DP7 users are complaining about bugs and problems much the same way people do here or even worse. 

So whats a DAW user to do???

Studio one V2 is the new Pro Tools!!!

Thatsastrat


If Cake could add a mastering solution and a true wave editor to Sonar, that would do it for me.
I really do like how Studio One addresses that. The Melodyne integration is cool, but I feel Cake will do something even cooler in that regard.

I was hoping that Roland V-Vocal would be taken a farther!!!!!!!!   I think its awesome.  They definitely have the technology.  They should come with a solution that competes with the Vari-Audio in Cubase!  People rave about those tools. 


I have seen so much praise for Vari-Audio in Cubase; "better than autotune, melodyne, anything you can imagine."

Melodyne's ARA tech is now available for all DAWs, so I'm assuming it'll be in X2. S2 lacks a dedicated tempo view, and makes it nearly impossible for smooth ramps in the tempo view it does have, which I have to have for scoring. It simply makes things more realistic when I can speed my midi up the way a human would before a section changes. The tempo changes in S2 are stepped and clunky. Also, no way in S2 to build preset trees for my plugs, and I have close to 400. No desire to dig through a browser for what I need when I can build an intuitive system myself in Sonar. 

That said, I do love the way S2 builds projects and the mastering tools that I comes with, and that's why it is still on my machine. Can't use it for composing, but when it comes to the finished product, it simply does the red book standard far easier than any other program I've used.

This is why they make chocolate and vanilla.

chilldanny


Sequencer One on the AtariST.
Now THAT was a DAW ;)

Texture for MS-DOS. Still miss that bad boy... (Project5 was a close 2nd)

I tried it after X1 kept crashing (x1c..??).  I read a lot of great stuff, but I couldn't get into the workflow.  Even Pro Tools was easier for me to work with.  I was honestly hoping that Presonus would change the way I work in a great way.

I simply missed the FX Bin and hated using a virtual mixer.  I use the FX Bin in track view constantly and I NEVER use the mixer in X1.  I'm always in track view.  I couldn't wrap my head around using a mixer view that wasn't linked up to the track view the way I'd like it to be.  It wasn't worth the Melodyne tie-in cause it slowed me down so much to work in a GUI I wasn't really enjoying.

Anyways, X1d has fixed a lot of the random crashing it seems.  I get a crash or two every few days, but it's not a deal breaker as of now.  I'd rather work fast and creatively rather than thinking about "how do I do this??"

Try the Demo I did loved it after a while.

@fooman

I read too many Fastbikerboy posts and now glued to his Youtube videos.  Plus I got promoted as the new CEO by forum users if you haven't already heard. 

I'm always in track view. I couldn't wrap my head around using a mixer view that wasn't linked up to the track view the way I'd like it to be. It wasn't worth the Melodyne tie-in cause it slowed me down so much to work in a GUI I wasn't really enjoying.

 
That kind of mirrors my experience with S1.  The disconnect between the TV and CV works as designed, but I just don't care for it.  With that, plus the way the FX bins work and the nuances of the PRV, I just couldn't seem to get comfortable enough with it.  And as much as the interface looks really sharp much of it tends to be a bit small for my taste.
 
Now... The Melodyne ARA integration I like very much, and the Audio Bend feature works nicely too.  It has it's place in my toolbox, it's just more my adjustable metric wrench rather than my hammer and screwdriver. 
 

All interesting reading - but I can't believe anyone did not mention Reason????

Jimbo 88 is incorrect in regard to no scoring to pic. It certainly does this and can import various formats and in the latest round of new features there are extra SMPTE options with offsets etc. Video support may be in the Pro version only and not in Artist not sure etc.. As for staff view they have left it off and don't really care about it. (At the moment anyway) Rather it not be there at all than not very good or well implemented. Artist is lacking in many features compared to the Pro version. Do not compare any version of Studio One to any DAW unless it is the full Pro version with all the updates. Easiest program to update by far. No confusion with this.

 
 
I stand corrected...I don't think video support was available in the begining. 
 
bUT...correct me if I'm wrong... I'm under the impression that Video support does not exsist in 64 bit.  So still a big NON starter.

I'm under the impression that Video support does not exsist in 64 bit.

 
For Windows I believe that is correct - no Quicktime 64.  And for whatever reason Presonus hasn't extended support for any other popular Windows types such as AVI.  I'm sure that will change eventually, but as it stands...