Sonar X1 32bit vs 64bit

I would expect neither is more stable over the other.

I stick with the 32 bit version because I've had trouble with some VST instruments under 64 bit host. 

The worst for me was Dimension Pro 64 under Cubase 64.  When I went to Cubase 32, and Dimension Pro 32, the problems went away.

A few days ago I tried to open one of the sample projects under X1 64 bit, and it issued a number of complaints about "missing things".  I don't remember the details, but I just closed X1 64 bit and opened the project with X1 32 bit and the messages did not appear again.

Using 64-bit X1 here, no issues at all with performance or VST usage

what are the advantages of us Sonar 64bit?

Positively Charged


TKP, would you be so kind as to list your most often used VST's?

I'm curious what the union set might be between your list and my list.

Thanks!

Sure Pos, I most frequently use Superior Drummer 2, EZ Player, Kontakt 4, Dimension Pro, Rapture, and Garritan Personal Orchestra 4 in my current project since installing X1 and X1a. All 64-bit.  I have licences for BFD2, RealStrat and Saxlab, the latter two which are only still 32-bit to my knowledge but I have decided to consolidate my VST's since moving 64-bit and will only load them up if really required or if 64-bit versions are released. I have loaded up and successfully ran 32-bit versions of DimPro, Rapture and GPO4 under bitbridge but as the 64-bit versions are also available to me I cannot see the reason to use them.
 
I dont get crashes, everything ran first time from a clean Win 7 64-bit implementation. I came to the forum here a few times durning the upgrade process, mainly to resolve configuration and placement of VST directories / files, its all good.
 
Main advantage is that of additional memory utilisation as the libraries used by SD2, Kontakt and GPO can be large and by also upgrading my memory to 8GB from 4GB I have removed all of the limitations of my previous 32-bit Vista implementation previously installed on the same DAW hardware.

I just recently installed X1 on a brand new Win7 64bit machine.  I set out to only install X1 32.  But I ran into some issues simply because the 32bit VST's reside now in a different folder path - Program Files (x86).  Perfect Space in particular goofed things up.  So I decided to try SonarX1 64bit to see if it were better.  And because I went through the trouble to get X1 64bit working perfectly (with 32bit and 64bit plugins) I run only SonarX1 64bit.  I cannot tell any difference really however, I read somewhere that latency automatically improves with 64bit.  If that's the case it will help me play my virtual instruments in real time - haven't really tested this yet.

I thank you all for the information

JM - Yes - SonarX1 32 works perfectly in a Win7 64bit environment.  Just be careful with your plug-in locations.  The 32bit plugins should reside in Program Files (x86) now.  If you are thinking about trying SonarX1 64 someday, you have to be very careful to separate the plugins in the proper folders and make sure your scan folders are set right.

Not all plug-ins x32 work well on Win x64.

To second something that GuitarTrek says, if you are running X64 and 32 (as I sometimes do), you want to be sure your plugin folders don't get mixed up.

Your 32 bit host CAN'T EVEN SEE your 64 bit DLLs.

On the other hand, your 64 bit host can see both 32 bit and 64 bit DLLs (that is true of VST only as far as I know).  So even though you have both, you may want to be sure your 64 bit DLLs are named differently than your 32 bit ones.

For example, Flibbertygibbit.dll would be your 32 bit one, and would reside someplace inside the Program Files (X86) ////Vstplugins folders.

And Flibbertygibbit_64.dll might be your 64 bit one and would reside in the plain old "program files" structures.

Your 32 bit host can't recognize the 64 bit plugin anyhow, but this naming convention would let your 64 bit host "see both".  If you (or the installer) named them both the same, then your 64 bit host would only see one.  Probably the first one in the Vstplugin folders search order.


...a nearly useless tidbit there, unless you move stuff around in your spare time between games.

I was using several 32bit VST's in my SonarX1 64.  Today I installed their 64bit equivalents and modified the scan folders.  I had to jockey around the vstfolders though.  The manufacturers have a variety of spots they like to deposit them in.  Some \Cakewalk\VSTplugins... others \Steinberg\ and other flavors too. 

Today I installed DimPro 64 and Trilian 64.  I'm still using Ozone4 32bit - I'm going to change that another day to Ozone4 64bit.

GT, how do you like Trilian?  I have the old Trilogy.

Positively Charged


GT, how do you like Trilian?  I have the old Trilogy.

I bought the upgrade from Trilogy a while back waiting for my new PC because my old one was getting short on disc space, and to be honest I was happy with Trilogy.  I finally installed Trilian a week ago on my new PC.  Trilian is one of those truly stunning plug-ins.  It is a vast improvement over Trilogy.  I've already swapped it in on about a dozen projects that had Trilogy on it. 
 
If you have the disc space you should might want to consider the upgrade. 

Taking odds on the post number for Freddie's first post in this thread?  Over 50 and under 100 is my guess.  the actual post number I'm going with is 64  (get it!!!!!)   Seems like a lucky number in this instance.

Excuse my denseness, but is there a way to select which version you install? I seem to have the 64 bit version, but would like the 32 bit, as it's apparent that I can only run Dreamstation (need those basslines as is) on 32. Please help.

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russ5ell


what are the advantages of us Sonar 64bit?

Being able to use more than 4GB RAM if your system has it.


Stewart

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