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2013/06/07 19:34:12 (permalink)

Sonar X2 & Peavey Vypyr VIP1

I'm running Sonar X2 Producer (build 306) with the Roland Duo-Capture EX interface and I'm trying to record using my new Peavey Vypyr VIP1 guitar amp.  I plugged it in (directly to my computer) last night and it was immediately recognized by Sonar as a MIDI input/output (it's also showing under my computer's recording devices, by the way, as a microphone).  I want to record its audio though, not MIDI.  Also, nothing I did with it registered on MIDI (and, yes, I have it selected as a MIDI device input/output).
 
Since my interface doesn't have a USB input and the VIP1 doesn't have a 1/4" or XLR output, how can I get Sonar to recognize the VIP1 as an audio device?  (I've heard of the work around to use a headphone to 1/4" adapter, but I'd rather not).
 
 
UPDATE:
Thanks for the help, guys.  Selecting a different audio driver (other than ASIO) allowed me to select the Vypyr as an input.  However, it said that the Vypyr was in use by another program and I can't for the life of me figure any other program that would be using the Vypyr.
 
It's a shame that I have to do the headphone work around in order to use this.  Part of me thinks that the USB interface might be better quality than the headphone to 1/4 inch to Duo-Capture, but I agree completely about the latency.  And, by the way, I'm not having any problems monitoring through my Duo-Capture.
 
 
 
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      USB Device                                        Dell Wireless 1703 Bluetooth
      USB Device                                        DUO-CAPTURE EX
      USB Device                                        Launchkey 49
      USB Device                                        VYPYR USB Interface
      USB Device                                        VYPYR USB Interface
post edited by Colin Dyer - 2013/06/16 05:15:18
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    Re: Sonar X2 & Peavey Vypyr VIP1 2013/06/07 19:39:12 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Colin Dyer 2013/06/16 05:12:54
    Comes up often, different devices same problem. The ASIO specification only allows one audio input/output device at a time. You can either use your Roland interface or the Peavey but not both at the same time. Deselect the Roland and the Peavey should show up. If the devices support a driver mode other than ASIO you might be able to use them both at the same time.
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    Re: Sonar X2 & Peavey Vypyr VIP1 2013/06/08 09:39:02 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Colin Dyer 2013/06/16 05:13:16
    Your issue here is going to be getting everything working together without having to deal with a bunch of latency issues.  The earlier Peavey USB designs were not adequate for recording.  They may have fixed this in the VIP series.  You can test this by switching to WDM/KS node in Sonar and performing a Wave Profiler.  If your VIP shows up as both an audio input and an audio output device you may be able to use your Vypyr for direct recording.
     
    Your best bet for your setup is to get a 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch adapter plug/cable and take the Vypyr signal from your headphone output on the Vypyr to a 1/4 inch input on your DuoCapture. Then use the headphone out on the DuoCapture to monitor while you are recording.
     
    This setup will give you the best performance from a latency perspective as well as allowing you to use the higher bit/sample rate capability of the DuoCapture (instead of Peavay's lower quality settings).  You my need to play around with how you connect the Vypyr headphone if you need to listen to the amplifier (see the Peavey Vypyr forum for some suggestions on doing this), but you should be able to monitor properly through your DuoCapture without having to bailing wire your Vypyr output.
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