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2015/02/11 08:44:02 (permalink)

Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks

I'm looking for a little help...when I am recording with Sonar X2 Studio I get bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks.  My operating system is Windows 8.  I'm about to lose my mind trying to figure this out.  Helppp!!
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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 10:16:00 (permalink)
I don't understand what "bleed over recording" means.  Is a single recording getting recorded on other tracks?  Turn off the recording button on those tracks - nothing will get recorded.  If the meters are bouncing, go to the Inspector and to the bottom where your input/outputs are labeled.  Change the input to "none."  That will keep the track from "seeing" (or hearing) the signal at the input and metering it.  That is good housekeeping, since an input signal can also find its way to the output.
 
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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 10:43:05 (permalink)
You won't get good help without supplying more information about your system. How are we suppose to guess what is causing this? I'm afraid Windows 8 would be the last thing involved in audio issues. 
List your audio signal path, audio interface, are you using a microphone, headphones etc. 

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 12:53:23 (permalink)
I'm going to guess he's talking about re-recording the output of existing tracks along with input signal on new tracks. Assuming no external mixer routing weirdness is involved, this can only happen if the the interface is routing the output signal back to the input via software mixing. This commonly occurs with onboard soundcard mixers with input set to "What U Hear" or "Stereo Mix". It should be set to something like "Line In" or "Mic In".
 
This can happen with the software mixers for more advanced audio interfaces, too, but is not likely to be the default setup.
 
 

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 14:10:42 (permalink)
Hmm.
 
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I think we all need a LOT more information before his problem can be analysed any further

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 14:55:05 (permalink)
I'm sure Brundlefly already nailed it.

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 18:34:01 (permalink)
When I first started recording on a digital machine, I experienced something that could be described that way.  Eventually I realized that the microphone was picking up the sound bleeding out from my headphones, which were turned up fairly loud.

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 20:54:28 (permalink)
Thanks gang for all of your quick responses.  Please bare with me.  I'm relatively new to digital audio recording however, at this time it seems like its woth the investment of my time and money.  My gear consists of  a Toshiba Satelite PSC2EU-04R00L Notebook Laptop, w/3gb of RAM, 64bit Operating System, Windows 8.1 Enterprise; w/282gb of available Harddrive; I use Sonar X2 Studio, EZDrummer 2.  I run my guitars through a Behringer EUROPOWER PMP4000 powered mixer via MIDISPORT 2x2 Anniversary Edition, and Behringer U-CONTROL UCA222 USB Audio Interface.  The problem:  When I cut and paste a drum track from ezdrummer 2 into a track on my Sonar X2 DAW...at the time that I press record on an audio track, to record an accompaning Bass Guitar line, and then press play,  the track for the Bass Guitar's VU meters will start registering the drum licks, from the previously recorded ezdrummer 2 track.  In other words the recorded drum licks are heard on the preceding tracks.  Make any sense?????  Work with me fellas
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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 21:27:04 (permalink)
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You won't get good help without supplying more information about your system. How are we suppose to guess what is causing this? I'm afraid Windows 8 would be the last thing involved in audio issues. 
List your audio signal path, audio interface, are you using a microphone, headphones etc. 


The old "turn off What you hear" remedy.  I remember the good old days of the Soundblaster cards when you could post that answer on every thread and be right at least twice a day.  

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 21:49:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cliffow9 2015/02/12 09:49:05
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In other words the recorded drum licks are heard on the preceding tracks.


Is the drum track the chicken or the egg? I'm not following which track is the "preceding track". The drums should be live audio from MIDI-driven EZDrummer. You don't ever have to "record" soft synth output. You just "freeze" it eventually if the CPU load of live soft synths and other plugins gets too high or leave it live until you're ready to export the whole project.
 
Basically, it sounds like you have both Ins and Outs of the UCA222 routed to the Behringer mixer, and you need to make sure you're not recording from the main bus in the Behringer because all previously recorded tracks and live soft synths are going to be riding that to your monitoring system during both playback and recording.
 
This isn't a SONAR issue, it's an external mixer routing problem. What you need to do to fix it depends on what I/O connections you're making between the audio interface and the Behringer.

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2015/02/11 22:44:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cliffow9 2015/02/12 09:49:26
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This isn't a SONAR issue, it's an external mixer routing problem. What you need to do to fix it depends on what I/O connections you're making between the audio interface and the Behringer.



I'd lay odds that's the answer.

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2016/04/12 21:51:16 (permalink)
I have a problem on an Asus notebook having involuntarily upgraded to Windows 10 (don't know what happened - just happened spontaneously and I've had headache after headache since with just about every piece of software I have installed - even MS Office - anyway...) Now the audio track I want to record on records everything from the previously recorded tracks as well as what I actually want to record on the track - this is not bleed this is actually recording at full volume. I'm using an Allen & Heath ZED FX as an interface. I had no problems at all before the upgrade. Man those Microsoft guys really know how to ruin your day. I would appreciate any suggestions 
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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2016/04/12 22:32:07 (permalink)
I'm reluctant to reply to a old thread. You should start a new thread, but I'll be nice and try once again. 
First :
 I'm using an Allen & Heath ZED FX as an interface
 
I would imagine they never supplied proper ASIO drivers for Windows 8 and now your on 10. 
You would be best off to purchase a proper audio interface. The USB of those boards is not really designed for working properly with a DAW. Either you have your mixing boards routing haywire or there is now a "what you hear" happening just like Dave has said in # 9. 
 

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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2016/04/13 11:35:34 (permalink)
Derek, it might just be easier to roll back to Win7/8 (I assume it was one of those and not XP).
 
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Re: Sonar X2 Studio bleed over recording on to subsequent tracks 2016/04/13 12:04:44 (permalink)
Thanks for the quick response and my aologies for contravening the protocol. I'm a first time poster so I plead ignorance. On the A&H not being designed for work with DAWs that's just not the case. I've used it with Vista, 7 and 8.1 with no issues. They recommend MME (32bit) not ASIO. The only difference here is the unwanted upgrade to Windows 10 from 8.1. It worked fine before that - a week ago. I've updated the sound card driver and uninstalled and reinstalled Sonar to no effect. Any idea how to turn of "What you hear" in Windows 10?
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