Well thank you both kindly for your very patronising and highly unhelpful replies

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You're not supposed to record the drum VSTs
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If that is the case (and I'd be very grateful if you would direct me to the place where this is stated, rather than just your opinion) why does Cakewalk SI Drum Kit, Addictive Drums, EZ Drummer, Drumcore et al provide the ability to play built in drum patterns ?
If it is not intended to record these, what other possible purpose would they be there for ?
Please do enlighten me.
However, it is very simple to do this in other DAWs (e.g. Samplitude).
What an idiotic statement you made Kalle.
@Kalle Rantaaho - before you go off on a flamer, read my post properly. I said
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I couldn't give a rat's arse whether I end up recording it to a midi or audio track, as long as I end up with a recorded guide drum track.
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So my question is not about creating an audio track per se.
I am quite aware of how to build a midi track either by using a controller / keyboard or in the piano roll editor and then bounce it down to audio / freeze it, thank you.
That is not the question I asked.
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It's not reasonable to start copy pasting the elementary parts of the help files here on the forum.
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Again totally inaccurate, I provided a link to a possible solution that I had tried and didn't work.
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This is also not the correct forum,
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Read my post properly, I said:
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* Apologies, I appear to have put this in the wrong Sonar Producer / Studio forum
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@Cactus Music - thank you for repeating something I already stated in my post. If I had the ability to move the post to the correct forum, I would have done so. No really.
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All of what Kalle is saying is correct. Don't feel bad, it is the most common mix up when people use Sonar or any new software. We expect it to work the way we would have designed it.
There is no need to record the drums. You build your midi data tracks that will trigger the drums and play them back. When your song is finished and you export it to a standard wave file those sounds will play exactly like they did in Sonar ( with the correct settings enabled)
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I already know how to do this. I prefer to use a quick and dirty drum track made from an inbuilt drum pattern so that I can get my ideas down quickly. Then I go go back afterwards to make drum tracks as you describe. It's how I work.
Again, I refer you to the same point I made to Kalle. Are you both really saying that Toontrack, XLN and SI Drum kit have got it badly wrong by providing inbuilt rhythm patterns that 'shouldn't be recorded' ?
Seriously ?
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It took me possibly 1000 hours to get a grasp on the parts of Sonar I need to use.There is still 50% of the features I have never used. This forum was where I learned 90% of what I needed to know. I visit every morning with my coffee and read all the new posts.
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Well, I need a DAW that supports my preferred way of working and workflow, not one that dictates how I 'should' work. If you wish to spend most of your time on internet forums that's up to you. Don't expect everyone else to conform to how you choose to live your life.
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Or switch now to Cubase or Studio 1 before you carry one any further. Each DAW has it's ups and downs so personlay <sic> I'd use what I have already paid for first.
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I said:
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return to Samplitude.
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Obviously this is something that Sonar X2 cannot do. That's all that needed to be said.
Clearly, I was niaive to think I might actually get some assistance at this forum.
post edited by Morticia - 2013/09/28 17:41:54