Teksonik

Its not a civil right to be able to buy the latest software's and expect that it will support XP32 or Windows 95 x32 or what ever forever. Save your money to a new computer instead of wasting them on latest software's is my advice my friend. Best Regards Freddie

Luckily I don't need your advice...and I don't have to "save my money" to buy a new computer. Trust me I could walk out right now and buy the highest spec'd computer on the market or have one custom built. I simply have chosen not to... As I said above I've installed the X-2 upgrade and it's working perfectly.... Like I told the other wanker snob above I don't measure my manhood by the speed of my CPU or the version number of my Operating System. You guys are obviously compensating for "short" comings in other areas......

 
Look who is a snob and arrogant.
You say you have the founds to buy a new computer but you are not willing too? How arrogant is it to complain that your old XP isn't supported, because you think its just so tiring to update your OS. Obviously you have the time and will to spend and upgrade your software's but not your computer or OS?  
You accuse us being snob because we want progress and features  hold back if they will continue to support XP32 or x32bit for that matters.
 
 
Do you think that the rest of the world should revolve around you and your XP computer? And if you update the rest of the world should follow. So either you techno fob, stingy or just lazy complainer. 
 
You telling us your XP setup work perfectly obviously you have no clue how good it could be with Windows 7x64 or Windows 8 x64. Stay with all means with XP32 if you like but don't come here and complain that it sucks that the rest of the world has move on and doesn't support it. That's include Microsoft too!
 
 
Best regards
Freddie 

Forgot to mention that nobody here is ignorant and arrogant,
Peace,Please ! 

Teksonik

Its not a civil right to be able to buy the latest software's and expect that it will support XP32 or Windows 95 x32 or what ever forever. Save your money to a new computer instead of wasting them on latest software's is my advice my friend. Best Regards Freddie

Luckily I don't need your advice...and I don't have to "save my money" to buy a new computer. Trust me I could walk out right now and buy the highest spec'd computer on the market or have one custom built. I simply have chosen not to... As I said above I've installed the X-2 upgrade and it's working perfectly.... Like I told the other wanker snob above I don't measure my manhood by the speed of my CPU or the version number of my Operating System. You guys are obviously compensating for "short" comings in other areas......

you obviously have an issue expressing yourself so you need to resort to name calling.
either that or your just not smart enough to find the words.
 
you can say what ever you want about the exscuses your giving here why you don't want to upgrade but its plain and simple.
your using a copy of windows that is 3 versions ago.
came out 12 years ago.
id be willing to bet you have a lot of dx plug ins and an interface that probably dosent support windows 8 drivers.
maybe im wrong.
 
but heres the real deal...
the next major update or version that sonar decides to put out, have fun standing there with your hands in your pockets.
see there is a way of being politely ignorant with out name calling :)

I agree completely with Teksonic that the reasons for not upgrading hardware or OS are usually due more to the huge inconvenience than to the cost. The cost of a new system is not an issue usually. If your DAW is stable and especially if you have a large number of plugs that will require reauthorization, etc - nothing can be less fun than going through that process.
I am running an older Quad system which thankfully is a champ. I bit the bullet late last year when one of my hard drives failed, and upgraded at that time with a new soundcard and Windows 8. But I can definitely understand and appreciate someone's reluctance to make the leap if they don't really have to. It seems every update I lose a few plugs that won't authorize or which are a pain in the neck to get up and running - new versions of drivers, tweaking etc. Yuck.

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

  no,  cocksmoker! 

you obviously have an issue expressing yourself so you need to resort to name calling. either that or your just not smart enough to find the words. you can say what ever you want about the exscuses your giving here why you don't want to upgrade but its plain and simple. your using a copy of windows that is 3 versions ago. came out 12 years ago. id be willing to bet you have a lot of dx plug ins and an interface that probably dosent support windows 8 drivers. maybe im wrong. but heres the real deal... the next major update or version that sonar decides to put out, have fun standing there with your hands in your pockets. see there is a way of being politely ignorant with out name calling

Yes you are wrong....on so many points. I'm well aware that WinXp is a legacy OS and support for it will dwindle over time. Did you miss the part where I wrote that the company I work for that has over 60,000 employees just gave all the people in my office brand new computers with Win 7 stickers on them....loaded with a fresh install of WinXp? So I'm not too worried about it for the near future. I will of course at some point buy a new computer but right now....and listen to this part carefully...there is no need. I don't work with large sample libraries so 64 bit brings no benefit and everything is working perfectly here. So why change now ? Yes the next version of Sonar will not work with WinXp...at that point I'll make the decision whether a new computer or OS update is worth the effort....at this point it is not. It has nothing to do with being lazy or stingy it's a simple Cost/Benefit analysis. Right now the cost in time to rebuild my system is not worth the benefit doing so would bring. Pretty simple no? Quite frankly I can't understand how such a simple question as posed by this thread can cause such a controversy....

I have both 32 and 64 systems because some software I need just won't run on W7 64 bit. As I slowly upgrade the software my XP 32 bit machines will fade away. Just like my Atari which I finally retired only 4 short years ago. Most of us own more than one of each of our toys,,,, a computer is just another piece of hardware like a distortion pedal.

Yes I've read many posts where some software just isn't playing well with Win7/8 or with a Bit Bridge. As I said earlier some software will never be 64 bit because their developers have quit the business. I'll give the Sanford Reverb as an example, one of the smoothest, sweetest software reverbs I've ever used. Les Sanford quit the business and none of his plugins will ever be 64 bit. Will they work with a Bit Bridge ? I don't know but some day I'll have to find out. My plan would be to keep this computer and swap out the AP 192 for an Audiophile 24/96 I have laying around and use it for legacy plugins while the new computer will only be loaded with 64 bit plugins. Then I can have the best of both worlds. It will happen one day I'm just in no hurry to make it happen tomorrow.....

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Frostysnake

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Not you at all,Frosty,
it´s only that I prefer to fu..  arround  in my words. 
On the other hand, this threat seems to be an invitation to rumble,
but I don´t like this sort of "timewasting."
Frosty, one question cause I read your signature:
Guess you are running an I5, I7 or so,
are 4 GB Ram enough to run X2  64 bit ?

I´m building a new PC in Juli or so.


howgh  
Pragi

Pragi

Frostysnake

Pragi

Frostysnake


He said wanker...LOL!!!!

no,  cocksmoker! 

...I hope you aren't calling me this...This would hurt my delicate feelings.

Not you at all,Frosty,
it´s only that I prefer to fu..  arround  in my words. 
On the other hand, this threat seems to be an invitation to rumble,
but I don´t like this sort of "timewasting."
Frosty, one question cause I read your signature:
Guess you are running an I5, I7 or so,
are 4 GB Ram enough to run X2  64 bit ?

I´m building a new PC in Juli or so.


howgh  
Pragi

Sure, it'll run with 4Gb of RAM but you owe it to yourself & your system to install at least 8Gb - even more, depnding on your motherboard. I routinely eat up 9Gb when doing orchestral stuff, and that's without any Fx plugs, just the samples!

Teksonik

Perhaps you could dual-boot WinXP and Win7? That would allow you to gradually update as needed, and figure out what's no longer needed as you move forward. But you'd still have your existing setup for those projects that require it.

Thanks that's a great suggestion. I'll look into it...so I could have Win7 64 bit and still keep my WinXp 32 for legacy plugins ? Sounds like an elegant solution.

When Win 7 is installed (stick it on a separate disk or partition) it will create a boot loader so you can select which OS to boot up. It should be a relatively easy process. I'm not sure, but it may be possible to scan for your older VSTs on the XP disk / partition.  Whether it will work or not I'm not sure, but if someone has that setup, maybe they could try.

I hope Frosty is not pissed with me, cause he didn´t answer

 
It's really hard to tell with those sunglasses on.