Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro

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2013/03/21 07:21:20 (permalink)

Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro

Hi gang,
 
Anyone out there that is using the Mackie Universal Control Pro with Sonar X-2?
If so, are you experiencing any compatability/latency problems?
 
I'm thinking of buying this controller, but would like to hear your pro's and cons of this setup.
 
Thanks 
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    bitSync
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 09:47:38 (permalink)
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    Hi gang,
     
    Anyone out there that is using the Mackie Universal Control Pro with Sonar X-2?
    If so, are you experiencing any compatability/latency problems?
     
    I'm thinking of buying this controller, but would like to hear your pro's and cons of this setup.
     
    Thanks 


    +1.  I am also very interested in any feedback on this question.  For my purposes though, I'm wondering what differences, if any, X2a/MCU users are experiencing than what I'm experiencing with my D8Bridge MCU emulator and X2a.  For example, the track SELECT functionality in my X2a/D8Bridge setup doesn't work properly, but I understand from an X2a/MCU user that function works properly.  I'd like to see an issues thread for X2a/MCU and this could be it.

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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 11:00:36 (permalink)
    I'm using the Mackie Universal Control with X2a and many others on this forum are as well.  I don't use many functions, so haven't had any issues.  I do recall some others indicating some shortcomings in the level of granularity for certain plugin attributes not working, but that's more symptomatic of Sonar than the console surface.  Do a few searches in this forum and I'm sure you'll find more than enough detail for the Mackie + X2a.

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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 11:37:15 (permalink)
    I found some latency problems with the MSR section of the Mackie a while ago. I reported it to CW, I'm hoping they are looking into it.

    My advice would be to, double check the fault isn't at your end and after that report it to the backers, the more on here that use the unit the more chance we have of getting the niggles fixed.

    PS. IMHO The ProChannel is a real pain on the Mackie, I hope they can find us a solution.


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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 12:43:59 (permalink)
    The MC works well with X2. The only problem is CW has not updated the dll to reflect the changes in X1/X2. The MC will work with just about all DAWs. The amount of support a DAW has for it is up to the DAW developers. If you look at other CSs that CW supports its the same story. No updates that take care of changes made to X1/X2. 



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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 13:01:42 (permalink)
    karma1959


    ...Do a few searches in this forum and I'm sure you'll find more than enough detail for the Mackie + X2a...
    I've done this but I haven't found more than enough detail.  There are some relevant results but it would be great to know just what the MCU/X2a user community looks like on here.  That way, I'll know who to bug with all my questions!


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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 15:44:00 (permalink)
    I use the vanilla MU & XT. Works well except the prochannel which doesn't work at all unless the module you want is the first one in the chain.

    Sluggish behaviour can be interface driver related.The latest drivers for my ZED-R16 have that problem, older driver works fine so sluggish start may not be related to the MCU at all.
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 16:23:05 (permalink)
    I have a MCU and two extenders.  IMHO, I wouldn't advise buying one for X2 because I think that the Cakewalk mindset is to push toward touch screen.

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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/03/21 18:57:19 (permalink)
    Mod Bod


    ...IMHO, I wouldn't advise buying one for X2 because I think that the Cakewalk mindset is to push toward touch screen.
    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!  Must have tactile faders, clicky buttons, spinning jog wheel!!  Must have!!  Must have!!


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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/22 14:41:31 (permalink)
    Hi Freex,
     
    Can you eloborate on what problems you are having with the ProChannel?
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/22 16:20:20 (permalink)

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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/22 20:05:56 (permalink)
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    Hi Freex,
     
    Can you eloborate on what problems you are having with the ProChannel?
    Like Karl (FFB) said eariler, the MCU only "sees" the module in  the PC that is at the top (first in the chain), not way of controlling any other module, unless you move it to the Top position.
    Would just love to see the Modules in PC being dispalyed on the MCU like plugins are in the FX bin. So we could scroll thru them on the MCU.
     
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/22 20:43:46 (permalink)
    Thanks for your response Freex! 
     
    Anyone,  is there any other controller/mixer out there that works well right now with X-2?
     
    I've already looked at the Avid products but don't think I want to drop $1,500 on a something made of cheap plastic.
    Also, looks like from the youtube vids that there is a big learning curve. 
     
    I was also comtemplating on the Sonar V-700 which would have been ideal, but was discouraged to read about the lack of upgrade support from Cakewalk for X-1 and X-2.
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/22 22:37:12 (permalink)
    Rick5 : "I was also comtemplating on the Sonar V-700 which would have been ideal, but was discouraged to read about the lack of upgrade support from Cakewalk for X-1 and X-2. "

    This is unbelievable. I just went and looked at the V-700 product page
    and they boast that it built around the venerable Sonar 8 !

    Have they thought that this might look a little odd ?

    Might as wall say "don't buy this piece of crap"

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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/23 01:05:38 (permalink)
    Don't get me wrong, the Mackie MCU is a fantastic control surface, it was even better in pre X versions of Sonar and I'm sure the bakers will get it back to awesome very soon.

    If you're looking cheap and effective, have you considered the behringer controllers?


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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/23 06:21:55 (permalink)
    Hi Freex,
     
    I like the solid built of the Mackie better than the Behringer.  I don't mind paying the price, and the 8 faders is perfect.
    I don't need more for the material I'm doing. 
     
    I'm surprised at the lack of control surfaces on the market.  There is little to choose from in the $1,500 under range.
     
    Thanks for the link Bigboi.
     
    post edited by Rick5 - 2013/03/23 06:35:53
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/23 18:22:56 (permalink)
    CW are aware of the existing problems with MCU and X1, X2

    I remember reading something about them hoping to address the issues in X3 if that's any consolation, I for one welcome anything CW can do to make the MCU Sonar relationship stronger... :)

    Really apart from the issue with the PC, the Mackie works better with Sonar than any other DAW IMHO


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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/23 23:48:18 (permalink)
    Thanx Freex for the good news!  
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    Re:Sonar X-2 with Mackie Universal Control Pro 2013/03/24 04:02:51 (permalink)
    I'll second Freex's recommendation. Despite the frustration of not being able to have full control over the ProChannel I still wouldn't be without the MCU. I use my laptop from time to time and not having a control surface attached to that slows me down big time.

    Here's hoping for some control surface updates at some time.
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    Re: Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/09/19 21:38:03 (permalink)
    I have a Mackie Control, as well as the Mackie Extender, with Sonar x2 Producer.  I am having the worse time getting it hooked up and working.  Is there anyone out there that can help me configure the control surface to Sonar x2 Producer?
     
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    Re: Sonar X-2 with Mackie Univeral Control Pro 2013/09/19 21:47:30 (permalink)
    I'm having problems with my MCU Universal Pro and X1 + X2.  Some of the faders don't match the GUI, one fader appears to be so out of line that it won't go to the bottom, and several make grinding/humming noises until I touch or move them.  This may not be a SONAR issue, but I'm wondering if I should re-install.
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