Sonar X3 playback latency issue (Sound Blaster Z)

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Re: Sonar X3 playback latency issue (Sound Blaster Z) 2016/07/25 11:07:52 (permalink)
Actually this thread is still relivant to those who will google looking for answers and why on board and sound blasters are not used by anyone expecting to make good recordings.  

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Re: Sonar X3 playback latency issue (Sound Blaster Z) 2016/07/25 16:18:13 (permalink)
Your picture can scare people, the buffer was way too big
I am sure I was getting better numbers, but that was several years ago, under different OS (and so with different drivers). So at the moment, without looking what is installed (I have connected nothing to X-Fi since I have installed Win10):

So well, at the moment I have some latency with my X-Fi...
But can you publish the picture for your 6i6 ?
 
I have tried to measure latency in Sonar, a kind of method you proposed before. But since Sonar is "smart" to compensate different delays, the only reliable way I can imagine:
* put some file on another player (phone) and connect one channel from it to the interface
* loop one output to another channel (on the interface)
* echo original input to looped output
* record both channels into second track....
* check shift between channels
I can not test with SB now (I do not have required cables in hands), but for my Audiophile I have just checked that, ~11msec, as reported by RTL Utility.

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Re: Sonar X3 playback latency issue (Sound Blaster Z) 2016/07/25 20:17:19 (permalink)
Interesting test, hopefully it would match Sonars calculations. 
That's sort of like the offset test but adds testing the input echo to the formula. 
The reason for the offset test is to see if the Audio drivers are telling the truth to Sonar.. seems some do not. There's a 3 page thread somewhere in the hardware form where a bunch of us tested different interfaces. As expected all the interfaces we trust passed with flying colours.. it's the doggy interfaces ( drivers)  that don't.. 
Most have said that the RTL test application always matches  what Sonar reports but you gotta admit it's a cool app. 
 
I didn't run that test yet on my new system for the 6i6 or Tascam  so will see if I get a chance and I'll post a shot.. I might start a new thread to keep confusion away as this is drifting off topic a bit. 
 
Rewguarding the SB screen shot, My buffer settings are what ever the default must be. This test was done on my old DAW which is now my office computer. I have since swapped it out for this other old PCI card made by Card Delux.. it is old but still supported by the company and it has solid ASIO drivers. It's test came out bang on. I see in the picture I didn't run it under WDM mode even though the title say's so. 


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Re: Sonar X3 playback latency issue (Sound Blaster Z) 2016/07/27 16:08:43 (permalink)
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I didn't run that test yet on my new system for the 6i6 or Tascam  so will see if I get a chance and I'll post a shot.. I might start a new thread to keep confusion away as this is drifting off topic a bit. 

I think we need at least some (proved) conclusion about SB latency in this thread. Otherwise new-comers can be confused but this controversial discussion. For the moment,  http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=174445 is the only recent thread I could found which mention US and Scarlett numbers from RTL.

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