Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue

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2015/09/30 07:48:56 (permalink)

Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue

I have recently purchased an Allen and Heath Zed 22FX mixer which came with Sonar X1 LE.
 
I have connected the PC running Sonar to the Zed 22FX mixer and I am trying to record a few audio tracks and I have run into an issue which I hope the forum members might be able to assist with.
 
The scenario is as follows:
 
I have recorded a bassline onto Audio Track 1 and can then select the USB return button on the mixer such that I can hear this audio track played back.
 
I now wish to record onto Audio Track 2 some string sounds, but I need to hear the Audio Track 1 at the same time so I can play along.  This is where the issue lies.  Whilst recording Audio Track 2, the output of Audio Track 1 is being recorded to Audio Track 2 as well as the string sounds I wish to record. 
 
How do I prevent the Audio Track 1 sound from being recorded onto Audio Track 2?
 
Many thanks in advance.
Steve
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    azslow3
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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2015/09/30 10:40:25 (permalink)
    22FX has 2 inputs / 2 outputs audio interface. Sonar has no internal track to track routing, everything you record comes from your mixer. So the goal is to route the signal correctly inside mixer.
     
    You have 6 buses: AUX1-2, AUX3-FX and (main mix)LR. You can have any of these 3 pairs as (Sonar) recording input and as monitor (headphones) output. Main output is always (main mix)LR.
     
    To record something while listening something else you should route such way that monitoring is not leaking into recording. For example, you send what you want to record to AUX1-2 (and corresponding button is pressed near USB send) while checking that nothing else goes there. Especially that USB return is not by occasion is also sent to AUX1-2 (either it is sent to LR, or ST3 is not goes to AUX1-2 directly nor throw FX). Monitors (headphones) can be LR then, where required monitoring combination is composed (from USB return and recording sources).
     
    You can check that everything is correct by playing something on USB return and listening on phones. When phones are in AUX1-2 mode you should not hear USB and get correct monitoring mix when in LR mode.
     
    On Sonar side, check that you don to set "Input echo" where you do not want it.
     
    PS. I am n00b, all that is theoretical. After I have found that what you want is not possible on my Behringer, I decided to understand how that can be done on "real" device. For me it looks like 10FX is simpler to use for that purpose,  it has "Rec" buttons instead of "AUX1-2" sends level. Not flexible, but "self explaining"

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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2015/10/01 08:49:26 (permalink)
    Dear azslow3,
     
    Many thanks for your advice, it is very much appreciated.
     
    I will apply your advice to my setup and see if I can obtain the results I need!
     
    Cheers,
    Steve
    post edited by bass2rez - 2015/10/01 08:59:27
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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/03/31 21:30:06 (permalink)
    ok so I'm moving up a bit from the focusrite solo to the zed 22fx  . I am trying to use the zed as an interface for the sonar professional and sonar does not recognize the zed its not in drivers, devices and playback recording ... an advice? thanks
     
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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/03/31 21:34:55 (permalink)
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    ok so I'm moving up a bit from the focusrite solo to the zed 22fx  . I am trying to use the zed as an interface for the sonar professional and sonar does not recognize the zed its not in drivers, devices and playback recording ... an advice? thanks

    Did you install the drivers for the 22. Do you see anything listed for the audio device? Is it set to ASIO driver mode?

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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/03/31 21:45:00 (permalink)
    hey ! thanks for responding back Cjaysmusic,    yes its set to asio drivers ... I figured the problem was download drivers issue but I cant seem to find the drivers for the zed 22fx  I wend the website fallowed the steps but no drivers avaible hmmmm ill keep looking 
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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/03/31 21:46:13 (permalink)
    Keep looking, there on the manufacturers website

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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/03/31 22:22:51 (permalink)
    ok dang it manf, website  doesn't have drivers for the zed 22fx    anyone have  or know of a link to where one can find the drivers?
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    Re: Sonar + Zed22FX USB Audio issue 2018/04/01 03:41:01 (permalink)
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    ok dang it manf, website  doesn't have drivers for the zed 22fx    anyone have  or know of a link to where one can find the drivers?



    According to the manual, its USB is class compliant, meaning there are no drivers to download -- Windows will detect it and load the necessary drivers.

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