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2015/01/14 20:42:39 (permalink)

Sonar and boot camp on a Mac

Hi All,
 
I asked this within the new thread about plans release. I am sure it got lost in all the excitement over the upgrade plans. Has anyone tried running Sonar on a Mac with boot camp?. My specs are in my signature, all solid hardware, more than beefy enough system to run anything. 
 
Thank you,
 
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/14 20:49:00 (permalink)
It works. I had it running on my Macbook. But performance is not great, and driver support is a little lacking for Bootcamp. Also tried it with Parallels, but performance was not great.
 

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/14 20:59:23 (permalink)
Thanks Wicked. Curious as to what hardware you tried with the Mac and what version of OSX. Also, what year model and spec is your Macbook please?.  RME drivers are rock solid usually. UAD card should be ok.

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/14 21:04:38 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lwmiller 2015/12/16 09:45:03
MacBook Pro late 2013 2.6ghz 16tb nv750 2gb

Running bootcamp and paralles 10.
Performance wise I see no difference between these, pretty impressive.
Babyface on bootcamp, Jackaudio -net on vm to Mac Jackaudio to ULN2, both working perfectly, stable, low latency.
No issues, pretty fast, quiet laptop.
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/14 21:13:45 (permalink)
Thank you TabSel, what I was waiting to hear :). Is jackaudio-net needed if not running parallels?. Is jackaudio-net actually needed at all for my RME card and UAD card?.

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/14 21:45:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Makzimia 2015/01/15 09:25:02
I run Bootcamp on a fairly large Mac pro... Win7 pro and I forget I'm on a Mac as I don't really use the Mac side for anything... It's my Sonar DAW

Nice way to get a powerful dual quad or larger processor system. Not a lot of PC manufacturers offering multi-processor-multi-core machines...

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/01/15 02:39:33 (permalink)
I have Sonar X3 running on both my 2008 Mac Pro and 2010 Macbook Pro. On the Mac Pro, it works flawlessly. Great performance, rock solid. On the Macbook Pro, there's a weird issue with the nVidia graphics creating system DPC latency, causing audio dropouts with my FireWire audio interface. The only solution is to temporarily revert to Standard VGA (which, in Win7, is still 1280x800 32-bit color, thankfully). After that it works fine.
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/12/05 06:04:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby lwmiller 2015/12/16 09:45:54
Just wanted to come back and thank those that responded to this. I just (3 days ago) finally got around to installing bootcamp and setting up Sonar Plat on it. I also went with a SSD drive and 2 1TB 7200 drives now. System hums along like a rocket :). 
 
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Tony

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/12/16 13:05:02 (permalink)
Based on this thread I'm staying with Sonar on my Mac.  Taking the Boot Camp plunge today .
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/12/16 15:53:36 (permalink)
Sonar works perfectly under boot camp and has done so sInce the first version - as it should. A mac running windows under bootcamp is a PC, making it the best Mac ever:) 
 
Never had much luck running parallels due to drivers and shared reources.

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2015/12/16 19:05:33 (permalink)
I am running sonar in windows/bootcamp....I prefer bootcamp to parallels...in bootcamp its two separate comps with separate logins..........parallels runs WITHIN Mac OS X and therefore uses more CPU. I love my mac, but love Sonar as well.....
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2016/03/25 12:34:30 (permalink)
Hello Tony Carpenter. I am thinking of doing the same thing.
I have Logic x UAD Quad Thunderbolt as well as Apollo 8 Thunderbolt.
 
How are you accessing the UAD Quad?
 
THanks
 
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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2016/03/25 13:13:12 (permalink)
Looks like I am following suit and going to Bootcamp this weekend. Just want a nice easy portable studio for the road to record guitar tracks and use SD 2.0 for the beat... nothing crazy. I bought a Focusrite iTrack Solo which is simple , very clean and small.

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Re: Sonar and boot camp on a Mac 2016/03/25 17:04:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2016/03/26 08:51:54
davemartone
Hello Tony Carpenter. I am thinking of doing the same thing.
I have Logic x UAD Quad Thunderbolt as well as Apollo 8 Thunderbolt.
 
How are you accessing the UAD Quad?
 
THanks
 
Dave Martone
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PC side doesn't have "PCIe via Thunderbolt" for Thunderbolt 2.
We do (now) have official support for "PCIe via Thunderbolt" for Thunderbolt 3.
You need one of the latest Z170x (Skylake) motherboards that supports Thunderbolt 3 via USB-C connection... and you have to run Win10.
Microsoft claim that TB3 should be backward compatible with TB2 and TB1 devices... but they don't guarantee it.
 
About Mac Pros:
You're going to pay $4000 for a new (top tier) Mac Pro Cylinder.
  • Six-core i7 at 3.9GHz
  • 16GB DDR3 RAM
  • 256GB SSD
  • No PCIe slots (Thunderbolt is the only means to access the PCIe bus)
  • No internal drive bays (external USB3 or Thunderbolt only)
Mac compatible RAM is $300 for 32GB of DDR3/1866
External Thunderbolt 1TB conventional HD is $200
 
To "deck out" the Mac Pro Cylinder with 64GB RAM and say 8 SSDs/HDs (via Thunderbolt), you're talking $6000+
 
On the PC side, you've got Six-core i7 based machines (x99 chipset) with up to 128GB DDR4 (faster RAM).
You've got internal PCIe slots (much less expensive than Thunderbolt peripherals)
You've got 10 internal SATA ports (and room in a quality case for up to 10 internal drives)
Well under half the cost of the Mac Pro Cylinder... and faster.
For DAW purposes, Xeon CPUs buy no additional performance (Mac or PC).
If the Xeon is running at lower clock-speed, you're taking a performance hit compared to standard i7.
 
If you've got the Mac... and want to run Windows... that makes sense.
If you're buying a Mac specifically to run Windows/applications... you're paying significantly more for lower performance.
 
One other small thing when running under Bootcamp:
Though it should work smoothly (and most often does)... you technically have no official support.

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