PeterMc
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Sonar display problems when Ozone 6 window minimized
On the simplest project (one audio track), if I have Ozone 6/6.1 (VST2 or 3) on the master bus and minimize the Ozone window, the time line becomes jerky, and the Now Time also stutters. Can anyone reproduce this? It's not the pause/break key thingy - checked that. Also, Ozone 5 doesn't have this problem. Cheers, Peter.
post edited by PeterMc - 2015/03/20 18:59:29
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PeterMc
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/20 16:38:40
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Can anyone reproduce this problem before I submit bug reports to Cakewalk and iZotope?
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/20 23:12:39
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It does it here with the Ozone 6.1 trial version, my Ozone 5 doesn't do it, just like you reported. Looks like yet another reason to skip Ozone 6. If past experience with Cakewalk and iZotope is any guide there is 0% chance this will be fixed. I'd be amazed if they even bother to look at it.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/21 03:19:55
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I have Ozone 6.1 Adv but don't have any problem with it in Sonar Platinum.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/21 21:26:20
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Hey Mudgel - I wonder if you'd mind trying something for me. Open a new project that includes the Metronome bus. Insert Ozone on the master bus, minimize the Ozone window, and hit play. Does it stutter? I've found that deleting the metronome bus (or sending it's output to other than the Master bus) fixes the problem.
Cheers, Peter.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/21 22:02:15
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No wait, wrong tree. So long as any audio at all is routed through Ozone, the stutter occurs with the Ozone window minimized. By deleting the metronome in an otherwise empty project (or changing to a MIDI metronome), I deleted the only source of audio to the Master bus, even through the metronome was not activated. Since a muted audio track still gives the stutter effect, I'm guessing activating the metronome is like unmuting an audio track.
So, Mudgel, do you see this issue if you have audio routed through Ozone and the Ozone window is minimized (so you see the little window header in the lower left corner of the screen)?
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/22 03:02:08
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I don't use 6.1 in Sonar. It works brilliantly as a standalone, and - for me at least - helps me focus on getting the mix right first before going to the mastering stage. I used to run O5 in Sonar and that was good but shifting to the more intense IRC3, used to really tax the system. Had to end up bouncing tracks if I wanted to minimize CPU overload. So it's really great to have the standalone option available.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/22 06:54:11
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I just tried it with mine. With the VST 3 Ozone 6 on any track, the master or an individual track and minimized it won't play. However, the VST 2 (32 bit) version does not do this and plays OK when minimized.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/22 07:23:17
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You're right - the 32 bit version doesn't do this. Curious. The window doesn't turn up as a small header in the bottom left of the screen when minimized, but turns up in the taskbar instead, and everything plays fine. Thanks for the extra info.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/22 08:47:24
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Hi Peter,
I am seeing the same behavior in Platinum/Ozone 6.1 VST3. Thanks for the catch.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/22 11:57:01
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I made a problem report to Izotope about this problem.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/23 14:50:42
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Izotope acknowledged the minimized problem with Ozone 6. They are working on a fix.
Here is the response from Izotope:
Thank you for contacting us.
This issue was recently reported to us, and we have been able to reproduce it. We have reported this to our QA and Development teams for further investigation.
We have found that this issue occurs specifically when the Ozone 6 window is minimized, so a work-around would be to close the Ozone 6 window when it is not in use, rather than minimizing it.
I do apologize for the inconvenience! Please let me know if you have any questions about this.
Sincerely,
Lorne
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/23 17:36:43
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Thanks for the info guys. I just bought Ozone 6 a week ago, and have been mostly using it in standalone mode. I've got to say, I'm not all that impressed with it.
Question: Where is the history button in standalone? I absolutely can't find it. Is it possible I'm not getting a full screen in the UI and it's cutoff from the bottom ??
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/24 06:27:54
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The History button is there on mine. On the bottom row between Undo and Options (and Help).
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/24 09:24:49
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Izotope acknowledged the minimized problem with Ozone 6. They are working on a fix.
not quite, to clarify: they can reproduce the issue and they're working on "investigating" why it's happening... if the issue is discovered to be in their own code, then a fix may come: Izotope via fireberd
This issue was recently reported to us, and we have been able to reproduce it. We have reported this to our QA and Development teams for further investigation. fingers crossed!
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/24 11:21:08
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The bug is likely a compatibility issue with certain video adapters, a problem that's been popping up in a lot of products over the last couple of years as more and more vendors start implementing GPU acceleration (Ozone started it with version 5). It's a cool feature, but unfortunately requires developers to code a lot of special handling and exceptions for different video cards. That could explain why not everybody reports seeing this problem.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/24 14:39:36
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I don't minimize Ozone when I'm using it. Its either open or "closed". I would have never known there was the bug if someone had not posted it on the forum. Probably others the same way.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/24 21:51:51
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Thanks for chiming in Fireberd, it appears that my window is not showing the bottom row of stuff! It only does this in standalone mode. What to do? (hypothetical) - I have 160+ plugins, hundreds of other programs in my computer. This is the first time I came across this problem. I hate to mess with screen resolution just for this.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/25 06:42:55
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You may have to reinstall Ozone 6 (uninstall it then restart the PC before reinstalling). The standalone version does not fill my screen and places itself sort of in the middle of the screen. There does not appear to be any resize options for the Oxone 6 panel.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/25 08:03:35
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/25 10:12:32
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fireberd
Izotope acknowledged the minimized problem with Ozone 6. They are working on a fix.
not quite, to clarify: they can reproduce the issue and they're working on "investigating" why it's happening... if the issue is discovered to be in their own code, then a fix may come:
Izotope via fireberd
This issue was recently reported to us, and we have been able to reproduce it. We have reported this to our QA and Development teams for further investigation.
fingers crossed!
Reproduced generally means confirmed bug. If they haven't reproduced the issue on another DAW or in an isolated environment then their QA dept haven't done their job correctly.
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Re: Ozone minimized causes display jerkiness?
2015/03/27 15:20:08
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Hello. Thanks, I tried your idea Fireberd, but it didn't work.
Kenzak, thank you for your post. You provided the answer. Gotta increase screen resolution (only for Ozone).
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