Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down

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2017/06/04 07:02:37 (permalink)

Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down

Iam having Sonar Plat produce a buzzing sound, once in awhile, No other sound except the buzz, timeline goes out past the end and I can't stop it, close it, etc etc.
Bummer too because things seem fine otherwise with this update. This seems to happen most often when i mess with the tempo or toggle FX off and on with e hotkey. it locks, buzzes and becomes unresponsive.  I have to kill it via Task Manager. I am using Kontakt 5.6.8. and Sonar  23.5.0.32. I can immediately reopen what ever file this occurs in, 2 so far, but i can't make it do it every time.
 
Anyone else have this ever?
 
Guy
post edited by gh4267 - 2017/06/04 18:09:42
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    promidi
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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 10:04:31 (permalink)
    Never had this issue.  However, can you provide more information about your system? You know, the usual:  Have you tried different Audio buffer sizes.  Are you using the latest drivers for your Audio Interface.  ASIO or WASPI . Not using ASIO4ALL. etc

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 10:20:55 (permalink)
    That's a fairly old version of Kontakt. I believe you can update to newest for free.

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 15:56:26 (permalink)
    Steve_Karl
    That's a fairly old version of Kontakt. I believe you can update to newest for free.


    nope, the major version updates are paid, but i think you'll get a discounted price

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 16:26:15 (permalink)
    I've had that issue.  For me it is a sound card driver hiccup, caused by surfing the internet while a project is open and the sound engine icon engaged.  The browser wants to take over the sound card driver, and a war ensues.
     
    I turn the engine off whenever I have Sonar open but want to do something in another program.

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 16:29:01 (permalink)
    Need more info...
     
    - As already mentioned, start with listing your system specs. 
     
    - When did this problem start?  Any change to your system - hardware or software - just before this started happening?
     
    Assuming your system is reasonably robust and the rest of your software is up to date, best guess at this point would be Kontakt 3 is the culprit.  Can you duplicate the problem without Kontakt?

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 16:35:27 (permalink)
    JonD
    Need more info...
    start with listing your system specs. 



    +1
     
    Kind of sounds like a soundcard or a conflict holding your drivers hostage.
     
     

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 18:11:19 (permalink)
    My bad its Kontakt 5.6.8.  I've been using asio4all, thats no bueno??
     
    It happens once in every 40 open/ closing of a project so... and I task it close, reopen, all is well.
     
    what is a cheap or older midi device that plays nice with Sonar?
     
    Win 10 Lenovo i5 16gb ddr3, all midi based with an m audio keystation pro88
    Asio4All v2.13  1.5msec latency or 64 samples, buffers 2, 24bit audio driver
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    I may have a chrome window open But not active web surfing during these Buzz outs. I am now trying to get youtube running thru my monitors hdmi audio whilst playing back something in Sonar to Cause it... So far 3 youtubes running, 1 sonar and no buzz.
     
     
     
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    post edited by gh4267 - 2017/06/04 19:03:18
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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/04 20:47:36 (permalink)
    I have experienced similar results using ASIO4ALL.
    Just make sure your not using 2 different soundcards (Onboard Realtek and ASIO4ALL together).
    Sometimes it is triggered by merely using you tube audio. So I would try disabling onboard audio if you want to continue using ASIO4ALL. It might work sometimes, it might not. ASIO4ALL is unpredictable in my opinion.

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/05 04:50:08 (permalink)
    I deleted X3 and lost Square, So i checked the command center, says its there, green and installed SO Did a VST rescan, trying to find rgc Square. however it found 102  new vst with both rescan boxes checked,  square was not there but PENTAGON l was now there, despite having uninstalled X3 yesterday. Penatgon wouldn't load or play but PSYN was there, found a sound, ran the project and got the buzz/ unresponsive error...  I did 3 youtues thru the monitors hdmi audio AND ran some sonar projects, no problemo, ran a good / stable project added a cake synth and BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ
     
    ?:(?
     
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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/05 06:52:23 (permalink)
    ChuckEbaby, I am only usin my onboard RealTek hd audio, no other audio device... however realtek was set to 24bit 48k whereas Sonar and or asio4all was at 44.1... SO i set realtek to 44.1k and I was able to shave off 4ms of buffering nonsense for a total 2.9ms of response!! keys feel even tighter...  Now lets see if the Buzz is gone...
     
    Thanks!
     
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    post edited by gh4267 - 2017/06/06 00:37:15
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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/17 21:05:43 (permalink)
    My many thanks to chuckebaby.
     
    I have NO audio device other than my RealTek chinesium onboard audio nestled inside Lenovo Corp i5, my DA7 laments in the corner wrapped in plastic as I am a fully fledged midiot for now.
     
        If i watch a youtue, pause it, open SPlat and work I can OCCASIONALLY get the buzz / lock via ASIO4ALL so
    1. no open browsers. or at least those with potential audio, which in todays age could be all of them.
     
    So buy a real midi / audio interface or NO WEB.
     

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/18 12:26:59 (permalink)
    gh4267
    My many thanks to chuckebaby.
     
    I have NO audio device other than my RealTek chinesium onboard audio nestled inside Lenovo Corp i5, my DA7 laments in the corner wrapped in plastic as I am a fully fledged midiot for now.
     
        If i watch a youtue, pause it, open SPlat and work I can OCCASIONALLY get the buzz / lock via ASIO4ALL so
    1. no open browsers. or at least those with potential audio, which in todays age could be all of them.
     
    So buy a real midi / audio interface or NO WEB.
     



    Hey G,
    I have experienced similar problems in the past when using ASIO4ALL.
    Its a good Band Aid (if you don't have an audio interface) but the conflicts between onboard audio and ASIO4ALL can be, at sometimes bizarre.
    But as long as both soundcards (onboard and ASIO4ALL) are not being used at the same time one can get productive results.
     
    My advise is to put a few bucks aside and purchase a used Focusrite Saffire.
    They can be had for under 100 US dollars and the quality of the pre amps are great.
    This will also allow you to use onboard audio to watch you tube videos at the same time Sonar is open.
    This is because they are using independent soundcards VS sharing a wrapped ASIO4ALL with onboard Relatek.
     
    If your using Sonars latest version (with Windows 10) you might fair better by trying out the WASSAPI driver mode.
    This will be better than ASIO4ALL.

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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/18 17:50:25 (permalink)
    Will check out both,  I have an old Line 6 gtr port laying around somewhere... how do these fair??
     
    Thx Chuckebaby.
     
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    Re: Sonar locks, produces a buzz and needs task manager to shut down 2017/06/18 18:08:04 (permalink)
    gh4267
    Will check out both,  I have an old Line 6 gtr port laying around somewhere... how do these fair??
     
    Thx Chuckebaby.
     
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    Not well .
    Well that's only my personal preference. However if it still has ASIO drivers available its worth looking in to.
    Its only my personal opinion, but anything is better than using onboard audio / or ASIO4ALL.

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