Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly?

Author
ViRiX Dreamcore
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 12
  • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
  • Status: offline
2015/03/31 21:46:58 (permalink)

Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly?

Hi 
 
I have SONAR Artist and so far it's working very nicely. However, I wanted to try some of the MIDI FX and when I drag one in (Quantize) it says that it might not have been installed properly. The same happens for the other MIDI FX as well. The audio and synths work just fine. I'm not sure what's going on here. I checked the plugin manager and it is pointing to the correct place. How do I install them the right way?
 
I have the Steam version. It also says that the soundcloud encoder is missing when I try to export using that option. Any suggestions? Thanks. 
#1

16 Replies Related Threads

    lfm
    Max Output Level: -53 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2216
    • Joined: 2005/01/24 05:35:33
    • Location: Sweden
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 03:20:13 (permalink)
    Since you can see the plugins in the list, they are installed correctly.
     
    It sounds very much like missing Visual Studio redistribution packages.
    That is a package connected to the version of visual studio that last built the plugins - very technical but just FYI. Visual Studio is the development environment from Microsoft used by many.
     
    Names of these are "vcredist_x86.exe" or "vcredist_x64.exe".
    x86 is for 32-bit and x64 for 64-bit software that is to run, so both is good to install.
     
    It should be in the install. You should not have to worry about it.
     
    But you can get it working more quickly by hinting support about it.
    Maybe the forum hosts have links directly to these needed.
     
    These can also be googled but you need to know which Visual Studio version 2005, 2008, 2010 or 2013 or something doing that. You can look in installed software in Windows which of these are missing - it doesn't hurt to have it all.
     
     
    #2
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12
    • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 10:43:44 (permalink)
    Hm. I am somewhat familiar with Visual Studio. I've been looking in the SONAR folder to see if I can find a vcredist but can't seem to find one anywhere. I've written support about it. This is odd though.
     
    Steam auto-installed it, so not sure what could've happened within that. Maybe the 64 bit sonar has it's own set of MIDI plugins that it needs? Hmm. I tried pointing to the 32 bit versions, but those don't show up. 
    #3
    lfm
    Max Output Level: -53 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2216
    • Joined: 2005/01/24 05:35:33
    • Location: Sweden
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 10:58:00 (permalink)
    There are also security updates on these, to confuse even more.
    VS 2005 is an update june 2011, to mention one I know about.
    I ran a security update on VS, and suddenly customers had issues - new redist needed.
     
    First I come to think of then is if installer is run as admin or not?
    Did Steam miss that part?
    Do you have to confirm starting it?
    It might not install otherwise, don't remember for sure.
    #4
    scook
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 24146
    • Joined: 2005/07/27 13:43:57
    • Location: TX
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 11:01:58 (permalink)
    I am not familiar with Steam and how it installs SONAR but I can tell you MFX like other DirectX plug-ins are host specific, in that 32bit MFX plug-in require a 32bit host and 64bit MPX plug-ins require a 64bit host. Since this is a Steam related issue, you may get a better response on the Steam Community Forum.
    #5
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12
    • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 12:08:42 (permalink)
    I'm not sure if it's steam elated or not. hm. Not sure how to reinstall it if that is the case though. I can just try installing all the redists although I'm pretty sure I have a lot of those installed because of other applications. It didn't ask if I wanted to run the installer, it just ran it. 
    #6
    jeteague
    Max Output Level: -89 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 64
    • Joined: 2015/01/17 13:17:23
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 12:38:35 (permalink)
    Try starting Sonar as "Administrator".  Right click the Sonar icon and choose "run as administrator".  With any luck your problem will be resolved.
      This worked for me in what sounds like a similar situation.
    #7
    lfm
    Max Output Level: -53 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2216
    • Joined: 2005/01/24 05:35:33
    • Location: Sweden
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 12:46:09 (permalink)
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    I'm not sure if it's steam elated or not. hm. Not sure how to reinstall it if that is the case though. I can just try installing all the redists although I'm pretty sure I have a lot of those installed because of other applications. It didn't ask if I wanted to run the installer, it just ran it. 




    Try jeteague's suggestion.
     
    If installer starts without you confirming, I don't think it's elevated.
     
    Cakewalk Command Center let you confirm at startup - elevating.
    Then as elevated it can run redist packages as child processes - and it also runs elevated doing that.
     
    I don't have to run Sonar as admin, at least.
    #8
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12
    • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 12:55:52 (permalink)
    Now THIS might be a steam thing because I'm not suer how to run it as an admin alone unless I close Steam and tell IT to  run as admin. Hmm... Thanks for the help. 
    #9
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12
    • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 13:10:41 (permalink)
    I've just tried running the 64 bit as admin and still no dice. I'll try loading a new project and doing it again, but don't see why that would make any difference.  In the current project, it says that the plugins are missing or not intalled, and when I open it, it says they installed incorrectly or are missing still. (They are actually there but won't run) Hmm. 
    #10
    pwalpwal
    Max Output Level: -43 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3249
    • Joined: 2015/01/17 03:52:50
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 13:11:20 (permalink)
    tried running it from outside steam?

    just a sec

    #11
    pwalpwal
    Max Output Level: -43 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3249
    • Joined: 2015/01/17 03:52:50
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 13:11:44 (permalink)
    cross post
     

    just a sec

    #12
    lfm
    Max Output Level: -53 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2216
    • Joined: 2005/01/24 05:35:33
    • Location: Sweden
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 14:00:05 (permalink)
    I tested in my CCC install - without any admin, just normal user level as I usually do.
    Started every Midi FX I have - Cakewalks, TenCrazy and Franks - so it seems ok from CCC.
    And I don't see the WinSxS have anything but commoncontrols.
    Just checking we don't all have this issue.
     
    Sonar seems to be built with VS 2013 - and Sonar wouldn't start without it, so wrong track I think.
     
    My Midi plugins in \Program Files\Cakewalk\Shared Midi Plugins are dated Sept 2013.
     
    Are Steam having their own drm software on their licenses?
     
    I would go to ControlPanel ->Administrative Tools->Event viwer
    I think Windows logs this kind of issues there.
     
     
    #13
    pwalpwal
    Max Output Level: -43 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3249
    • Joined: 2015/01/17 03:52:50
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 14:24:22 (permalink)
    did you try asking in the steam forum?

    just a sec

    #14
    Seth Kellogg [Cakewalk]
    Administrator
    • Total Posts : 814
    • Joined: 2009/02/06 15:25:40
    • Location: Boston, MA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/01 16:22:36 (permalink)
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    I've just tried running the 64 bit as admin and still no dice. I'll try loading a new project and doing it again, but don't see why that would make any difference.  In the current project, it says that the plugins are missing or not intalled, and when I open it, it says they installed incorrectly or are missing still. (They are actually there but won't run) Hmm. 




    Something on your system blocked the STEAM install script from running the Rgsvr32 service with those plug-ins. The most common cause of this is pending Windows Updates. Though other causes are virus scanners and other malware security type applications.
     
    Complete any Windows updates first, then "Verify Application Cache' through STEAM. This will trigger the client to re-run the install script.
     
    Check out the FAQ's I have pinned in the STEAM forums. They link to articles which list known applications which can cause issues, and also has manual instructions for running Rgsvr32, in the case of Rewire or control surface issues. These instructions can also easily be adapted to any .dll (which is what the MIDI plugins are) file for a quick manual fix if the STEAM automated install fails after updates have been run.

    Best Regards,
    Seth
    #15
    ViRiX Dreamcore
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12
    • Joined: 2015/03/30 02:11:27
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2015/04/03 12:24:58 (permalink)
    Alright. I've went on such a long journey. I've learned many things along the way as well and ya know what?... 

    THEY FINALLY WORK!!!

     
    TL;DR
    Try running steam.exe as an admin first. Then try doing ALL the updates (all the important ones anyway). THEN try closing the virus program.
     
    Full story.
     
    I first learned that even though Windows looks like it's not updating hundreds of updates (I had like 100, then I had about 64 more... then one more. After that it still didn't work. I checked the FAQs, disabled Malwarebytes (reluctantly might I add), and then BOOM, out of disk space... OH NO WHAT DO!?
     
    Then I searched and found something called LinkShellExtention and learned all about the magic of Symbolic Links and Junctions (AKA: quantum file management).
     
    THen after hours of updating, reinstalling SONAR, and rebooting, I decided to run Steam itself as an admin. Now I don't know which of those things fixed it... but it FINALLY WORKS!!! Thank God it FINALLY FLAPPING WORKS!!!  I honestly think it was the idea that I had to run steam in admin mode though. 
     
    Thank you guys SO MUCH for all the help and support. I really appreciate it. :)
    #16
    manfredima
    Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4
    • Joined: 2015/02/26 10:26:00
    • Location: Russia
    • Status: offline
    Re: Sonar says MIDI FX plugins aren't installed correctly? 2016/05/05 12:42:06 (permalink)
    > Missing Plug-ins
     
    Locate the DLL of the Direct X plug‑in that you need to register and note the file path.
    Go to Start / Run and Type by turns, examples:
     
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/Transpose.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/Arpeggiator.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/ChordAnalyzer.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/EchoDelay.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/EventFilter.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/Quantize.dll"
    regsvr32 "C:/Program Files (x86)/Cakewalk/Shared MIDI Plugins/Velocity.dll"

    Sonar V-Studio 100, EMU-1212, Carvin AC50F, Line6 HD POD, Edirol PCR-300, Fatar Studiologic SL-990 XP, Octava-319, Shure SM 57 LCE
    #17
    Jump to:
    © 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1