Sonar taking forever to load

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2017/10/23 21:51:29 (permalink)

Sonar taking forever to load

Since the last update, it is now taking almost TWO MINUTES for Sonar Platinum to load.
WTF!
Anybody else having this problem?
Solution?
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    Zargg
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 11:14:30 (permalink)
    Hi. You give no information about your system, so it's impossible to help. OS, RAM, SONAR version etc.
    All the best.

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    dbenus
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 11:21:13 (permalink)
    HP Elitebook 8760w Laptop
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    Sonar Platinum (rolled back 3 times, from most recent update to Dorchester, didn't solve problem with loading time)
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 11:34:35 (permalink)
    dbenus
    Sonar Platinum (rolled back 3 times, from most recent update to Dorchester, didn't solve problem with loading time)




    Have you tried loading a brand new project with no FX ?
    How fast does that open ? If it opens quickly that's an indication of a plug in issue.
    Have you used any new plug ins lately ? Try opening in Safe mode: Hold down Shift while opening a sonar project.
    Load VSTs one at a time.
     

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 11:55:31 (permalink)
    The Sonar program opens very quickly (no projects) as it always did but....
    I've noticed, over the past few weeks (2 months?) that it takes Sonar Platinum a much longer amount of time to open individual projects.  Especially if I have the new Superior Drummer 3 in the project.   Where it used to take less than 15 - 20 seconds, it's now taking up to a minute or more to load a single project.

    The track view and control bar load right away, but then the synth rack and console view take a much longer time to load.  And I can't do anything but wait until everything loads.
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 11:56:04 (permalink)
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    Sonar Platinum (rolled back 3 times, from most recent update to Dorchester, didn't solve problem with loading time)




    Have you tried loading a brand new project with no FX ?
    How fast does that open ? If it opens quickly that's an indication of a plug in issue.
    Have you used any new plug ins lately ? Try opening in Safe mode: Hold down Shift while opening a sonar project.
    Load VSTs one at a time.
     




    I think the OP may be referring to the actual sonar program opening, not projects. If that is the case it has been slow for me for much longer than the last update. I timed it on many different days and it was almost always 1:55 from the the point of selecting the program before it was opened and ready to use. The only time it was less than this was when it was being opened again after being closed in the same session (ie pc has remained on) so not being a computer whizz I guess that there are things that have to happen first time out that are not required in subsequent initiations as long as windows has remained running. 
     
    I've no idea if any updates since 08 have improved or worsened this as I haven't installed them and I've long since taken to starting the program and wandering off for a while so that I don't have to sit there wishing two minutes of my life away every time.
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    dbenus
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 12:32:09 (permalink)
    I am talking about the loading in of Sonar itself.  It take about 2 minutes just to get to the program.
    Once it's open, projects load in lightning fast.
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 13:15:38 (permalink)
    SONAR takes ~5 seconds to load here (from an SSD), but that's just the first time after booting. Subsequent restarts are faster.
     
    Do you have "scan on startup" enabled? (Preferences -> VST Settings -> Scan Options).


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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 13:22:58 (permalink)
    You didn't mention your soundcard ?? which is what sonar initializes when you open Sonar itself.
    Have you tried opening a project directly from your project files ?
    Example: go to your project folder and double click on a project icon. This bypasses Sonars Start screen.
    If Sonar opens fast, this would eliminate soundcard diagnosis I stated earlier and point towards a possible C++ update or Open GL/Video card update which is what sonars start screen uses. Bitflippers idea about VST scan also hold water as well.
    Those are my guesses anyway.
    Sonar opens to start screen here in less than 5 seconds (SSD HD / Intel I7 4790K)

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 13:32:45 (permalink)
    Yes.  The VST Plugin scan was always on.
    Never took long to boot up; even with this on.
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/24 23:18:02 (permalink)
    dbenus
    Yes.  The VST Plugin scan was always on.
    Never took long to boot up; even with this on.


    But I'm sure you know that the more plugins you add, obviously the longer it takes to scan them.
    I always leave the plugin scan off, and do a manual scan whenever I add new plugins.  It saves a lot of time when opening up Sonar.
     

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/10/25 00:14:19 (permalink)
    Standard HDD (7200) Cold start takes about 5 seconds from click to ready to roll (Automatic Background Scan in options)Subsequent scans 2-3 seconds. SONAR Platinum 2017-07

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/12/30 01:30:31 (permalink)
    I'm having the same issue. Boost 11 is the culprit. Any suggestions on how to fix it?
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/12/30 13:46:54 (permalink)
    I haven't used Boost 11 much. Maybe it needs to be reinstalled. You could try excluding it from the vst scan path and doing a reset/rescan of your plugs to confirm, then try a reinstall. It seems to me there was an updated version of Boost 11 during the past 6 months or so. Are you running the latest version?
    FWIW I have been using Studio One Pro since Cake's announcement - you haven't seen long load times (both DAW's are on an SSD primary boot drive) - SONAR runs rings around S1 for loading projects here.

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/12/30 15:24:06 (permalink)
    walhalil
    I'm having the same issue. Boost 11 is the culprit. Any suggestions on how to fix it?


     
    Just timed opening Sonar, then a project with 32 tracks. 14 seconds in all.
     
    Did the same with Boost 11 (old version) added to the master bus. 14 seconds again.
     
    What makes you think Boost 11 is the problem?

     
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/12/30 17:01:59 (permalink)
    It takes Sonar a short time to start but a long time (couple of minutes) to open my projects most of which are 30-40 tracks. I don't know if that's good or bad but I plan accordingly and do some other stuff while waiting. No big deal.

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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2017/12/30 17:07:27 (permalink)
    walhalil
    I'm having the same issue. Boost 11 is the culprit. Any suggestions on how to fix it?


    as I mentioned earlier in this thread, your soundcard can have everything to do with it, as can a C++/VS library update.
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2018/01/02 04:13:31 (permalink)
    When I try to add Boost 11 to a project it hangs for several minutes. I usually end up doing other stuff while waiting for it to load. This does not happen on files without Boost 11. I have tried reinstalling it with no success. I'm going to try uninstalling then reinstalling Sonar and the XL pack to see if that helps. I'd rather not spend the time if I can avoid it, but this is really slowing me down...
    Win7 64 bit.
     
    BTW, where can I find the Boost 11 update mentioned above?
     
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    Re: Sonar taking forever to load 2018/01/03 16:11:00 (permalink)
    Another option: get rid of Boost11 altogether. Surely you have an alternative limiter that you can use? There are freebies out there that are better than Boost11, e.g. Limiter No. 6. If you like the ease of use of Boost11 and are into smashing things hard, there's LoudMax. Either would be an improvement over Boost11.


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