Sonar x2

 
Hey Bops, welcome.
 
I came into sonar at the tail end of X1.  At that time there were some like you who hated the transition.  Things have since settled down and just about everyone is mostly happy.  Personally, I much prefer the looks of the X series.  To me, the previous style looked too much like a word processor.  I think a big screen, like 30", is needed to really appreciate the way things are now set up.  And you can use a large touch screen if you like that sort of thing.  Or multiple screens.
 
A lot of people here have gone from the old way of doing things to the new and I'm certain they'd be glad to help you through a transition period.
 
I wouldn't spend much time with X2.  It was pretty buggy and some functions changed going to X3.  People now sing its praise.  If you wait for the right moment, you can upgrade to X3 for a very reasonable price.
 
This forum is mostly users, so if you want to voice your concerns to Cakewalk, you should go directly to them.
 
 

I have projects that I am still working on in X2. There are some glitches now and then but nothing serious. Certainly nothing that would stand in the way of a completed project. Here one of my tunes via X2 http://soundcloud.com/jmasno5/so-much-older

you might have a point

Some people have a hard time dealing with change. They're so put off by the degree of change they don't go any further to find out whether they actually like the changes or not. 
 
I don't think he's a troll in the classic sense of the word, but I have no idea what would motivate him to create a post like this that seeks no assistance.
 
If you don't like SONAR, don't use it. If you like it, use it. Seems simple to me.
 
 

i happen to still have X1, X2, and X3, all currently installed and functioning just fine on my main music computer.
 
The reasons I retain the older versions are:
 
1.  Insulation against some unknown glitch in a higher version, so that if some weird X3 issue were to happen to affect some super important project, I would have the option of working on the project in one or more prior versions of Sonar, albeit with inherent limitations, but at least I could continue to move forward on projects.
 
2.  Quite often, one or more bits of functionality or bundled instruments will be deprecated in a move to a higher release, and I tend to generally deliberately retain the older release, so that if I have to open up a project completed in the prior release, I can do so, knowing that its functionality will still be in place as needed.  MY approach to projects is that I almost ALWAYS will complete a project in the same version of Sonar that I was using when I created the project.  The only exceptions I allow myself are when some particular functionality in the older version is clearly broken, AND NEEDED, for that particular project and then I may try completing that particular project in the newer release of Sonar.
 
3.  I also tend to keep the older versions, in case some forum member runs into a situation where their computer gets hosed and they are on some older version of Sonar - I may offer to assist with either testing some condition out in the older version, or may even offer to load the project on my computer, using the older version of Sonar, just to try to assist with someone completing their work on an otherwise nightmarish situation.
 
I will assist if possible, but can only do that with some reasonable level of engagement by the forum member.  It is my observation for several years now that others in the forum would also jump in to assist with whatever issues a member is having, again, as long as there is a reasonable level of engagement in the problem solving process by the original poster.
 
Tossing a frustrated rant out there is certainly another option, and may well be where this thread stands.  To the Original Poster - the ball is in your court - help is available, if you choose to accept help in getting your issues resolved.
 
A good place to start would be to describe your system, and software to us, so we can get an idea of what kind of setup you have.  It helps us in our assessing likely places to look for some issues.  If you look to the bottom of this post, you will see my computer specs in my forum member's Signature and Comment section (bottom of this post), for ideas on what information you could list for us.
 
Then, I would ask that you lay out your issues - it is usually better to do so where each issue is listed in a brand new thread, because otherwise it gets REALLY messy and convoluted to read through and keep the posts properly connected to the correct issue, so please please start a new thread for each issue you are having.
 
I will be pretty much eating lunch, messing around with some sound library installs, and hanging out in the forums for a good **** of the day, so if you want to wade into getting your issues resolved, I will be here today to assist.
 
Are you up for getting your stuff squared away?  Quite honestly, X3e is very stable, so for a given system where that does not seem to be the case, there are quite likely system-specific causes for your issues, which is GOOD, because we can likely address them.
 
Bob Bone
 
 

The OP has just done one post, I think it would be reasonable for us to jump to conclusions right or wrong, especially as the user claims to have used older versions of Sonar.

 
 
I think we should keep the welcome mat out, just in case a newcomer is still around, rather than ganging up on them.
 
A rant makes sense from the ranters point of view (I have a certain experience with the subject) and there may be some valid points behind it.
 
 

Karl has one up on me.
 
I stumble in the forum.

I've posted a few rants here, and each time another forum member was kind enough to help me resolve my issues (most notably Bob Bone, Bitflipper and scook).  So, Bops, if you're having problems please hang tough and the guys here will do their best to help you sort them out.
 
 

I remain poised, 
 
Bob Bone
 

Tortoise Media Prods
I also might as well bring up that "Envelope Offset" thing anyway: I really resent that feature being implemented -- somehow it got turned on while mixing my last song, and by the time I discovered the cause, the HOURS of mix work I had done got SO screwed up that I ended up having to export all the tracks to audio to be mixed in Pro Tools instead! I was hoping to say in my album credits "No Pro Tools was used in the making of this record", but I can't now!

The keyboard shortcut for envelop offset mode in X2 is the letter O. It is possible to remap the shortcut in Preferences > Customization > Keyboard Shortcuts. Some assign the letter O to "Do Nothing" to prevent accidentally invoking envelop offset mode.

Well, Sonar, forgive me, it WASN'T a bug affecting my Tascam FW-1884 board's track faders, but more rather a VIRUS! I reinstalled the X2a patch, and upon completion, an antivirus popup reported that the fw1884Panel.exe file was infected by a virus! After deleting the virus, I reinstalled the Tascam software & drivers, and now the faders work again -- woo hoo!
 
The odd thing is that X1 still worked fine, though. Weird. Anyway, I'm glad I can still work with the X2 mix bus processors. Not using those bummed me out more than anything -- they're awesome!
 
Merry Christmas to me!  :0)
 
RICK

Yes, you're right about that. After I had been working for awhile (so nice to get some work done!), I had to go into the Tascam control panel to bump up buffers, and the antivirus software (AVG Free) popped up again saying that the panel was infected by an UNKNOWN virus! I told AVG to add it to its exceptions list, and all still seems to be working OK. I'm guessing this all started from an automatic detection and quarantine that occurred during an overnight virus scan. Arrrrrrgh!