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2013/03/05 23:20:33 (permalink)

Song for America

Here's a song I recorded last summer, but recently re-orchestrated.  It is my most complicated project with 49 time signature changes and 74 tracks. A lot of the orchestral parts are based on the version Larry Baird did with Kansas when they played with a full orchestra.  It is a long song - but well written by Kerry Livgren.  Let me know what you think.  
  

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/05 23:21:34 (permalink)
    Wow... See why I said I would kick Mark's a$$? This was amazing... When dealing with lots of tracks like this, it's a trick to maintain separation? And distinction... What stands out to me are the guitars, but there is much love put in to this orchestra, "much love." Every part of the orchestra is alive, and speaks with its own voice. 

    But it is all a beautiful under carriage for the incredible tenor vocal tracks layered on top. And speaking of beautiful under carriages? Have you seen Genevieve Morton? :-)  

    When your vox kick in, this has "an unmistakable" STYK vibe... 

    It definitely "moves..." from a time signature perspective. The guitar is unreal... During the solo it takes on a strong Yes vibe? (to me?) and please take all of these comments as compliments? I mean them all to be high praise. 

    This is some of the best music I've ever heard, not just some of the best music on the forum? Some of the best music "ever" congratulations... It is truly "epic" in the truest sense of the word. I am in awe of this production. (I need a moment, a moist towelette, and a cigarette...)  
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/05 23:28:01 (permalink)
    i played bass on this song, in high school, when i was a senior...
    the keyboard player put a project together, and we did this song in front of whole school for an assembly, maybe it was a talent show, i don't remember..

    this quite the different version of it!

    heheh

    one of my favorite kansas songs, it's probably the quintessential kansas song for me, moreso than wayward son or point of know return.


    very cool version.....

    it's kind of sweeping modern progressive version of it...

    you can't skip the intro to get to the vocal!
    that's just wrong...

    don't even suggest it.


    the whole intro is the buildup to the feeling of the melody and lyric..

    to me, without the long intro, especially the break down part at 2:20, the lyric does not make any sense..

    the entire intro, is the journey.

    then they arrive, at 2:50....

    and what they see, becomes the lyric and melody....

    bring that opening vocal line up, so it really stands out for that moment that it begins..
    then the mix falls into place.

    real nice on the harmonies.
    really like that.

    made it your own, but it still keeps the original vibe.

    nice transition at 4:30

    the drums are heavy handed here....
    but they basically are doing the heavy rock thing, whereas the original was more jazzy....

    guitartrek, thank you for that.
    that was excellent.

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/05 23:32:31 (permalink)
    Ha! I felt Kansas too! (but I said Styx) 

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/05 23:34:11 (permalink)
     
    WOW... that knocked me out... one of the most impressive productions I've heard on this forum... Outstanding... I knew you were a great guitarist, singer, producer, but how did you manage all those great keyboard parts..?  wonderful work...  
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 00:07:42 (permalink)
    Robby - Thanks a Ton for your comments!  They mean a lot to me!  I'm glad you liked it!

    Bat - Thats cool you played that in High School!!!  That must have taken a while to rehearse to get all those parts down.  This IS the quintessential Kansas song.  I appreciate all you great comments - very well taken.  I'll bump up the first part of the vocals.  I never noticed it before but you're right.

    Frank - thanks a lot!  As for the keyboard parts...When I was young I got sick of my guitar playing and switched to piano / keyboards.  I kind of broke into the local jazz fusion scene as a keyboard player.  Picked up guitar again later. 
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 01:22:15 (permalink)
    No... I didn't just like it? 

    I like plenty of stuff? It ranges between here, and here? (Holds hands up?)

    However? This... This was "up here?" (holds hands up, but much higher?)  It's a question of honoring talent? Vs respecting people who are good? vs. respecting people you appreciate/like. This? This was "up here?"

    So it needs to be understood that there is a delineation/differentiation? Because, there is one... And it's not a small one. There are very few who could do this? Very few... So with that said? Special respect is given.
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 08:34:34 (permalink)
    I agree, one of the best and most ambitious projects I have ever heard here on the forum. 

    Simply saying "Well Done" seems inadequate .... but it truly is "Well Done."

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 12:36:45 (permalink)
    Geno,
     
    This is a ridiculously great production.    Mix is great, performances great, details, orchestration, etc...   Your drum track is also exceptional, and the detail in tempo mapping and time signature changes are evident.   Very impressed by this production.   Just amazing all around.
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 15:05:23 (permalink)
    Absolutely astonishing. What an epic production, this blows me away. I have to say, it doesn't belong on a free 128kbps Soundclick account Geno, we should be hearing this in it's full glory.

    Superb.

     
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 15:09:33 (permalink)
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    Absolutely astonishing. What an epic production, this blows me away. I have to say, it doesn't belong on a free 128kbps Soundclick account Geno, we should be hearing this in it's full glory.

    Superb.

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    nice thanks for sharing


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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 15:34:26 (permalink)
    WOW!!!  I think I lost a few pounds just listening due to the adrenaline surge I got! What a great production, playing, instrumentation, mix - everything.  All the best to you - yo deserve much praise for this work.

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 19:59:45 (permalink)
    Wow.  All I can say is that all the adjectives and superlatives being hurled at Geno's masterpiece to date are truly appropriate.  The drums felt a little loud at points on my pc speakers, but so what.  What a remarkable accomplishment.  I will join Robby for the moist towelette and a smoke.

    Geno, step forward and take a very deep bow. 
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 20:27:42 (permalink)

    Geno, this is spectacular. All 9:40 minutes of it.
    I left you a comment on soundclick last year and I don't remember what it was then, but, this is some kind of major accomplishment. The production and performances are world class Geno. 

    Bravo......



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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 20:38:09 (permalink)
    Unbelievable!  Incredible!  Wow!  And what Robby and everyone else said.  This is out of this world good!  :)  
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/06 23:22:35 (permalink)
    Herb -   Thanks for that positive feedback.  Always great to hear things like that from guys with your kind of talent. 

    Mark - Thanks for your kind comments.  I'm glad you picked up on the tempo mapping - since our collaboration I'm paying more attention to tempo maps.

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    Tim - Thanks - that means a lot coming from a talent like yourself.  Your musicianship, mixes and productions are always at a world class level. 

    Janet - thank you for your positive comments. 
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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 00:53:55 (permalink)
    I LOVE this better than the Kansas version.  Your added synths give a lot more depth than the Kansas fiddles and guitars did.

    Truly a cover epic!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 01:41:13 (permalink)
    Holy crap! Amazing! 

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 11:18:19 (permalink)
    Geno, I had the good fortune to get to know Kansas when I was in college.  The played around Topeka, KS as White Clover while I was going to school in Lawrence, just 30 miles down the road.  I've seen them play this in concert several times, and this version is as good as it gets.  Every song I've heard from you has been outstanding, and this is the icing on the cake.  You have very good taste in music!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 14:19:17 (permalink)
    This is top rate. What was the line from the Jack Nicholson movie? "You make me want to be a better musician."

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 19:05:56 (permalink)
    So this is where you've been the past few months!

    Nothing more to add than this is just so much goodness and it was undeniably so much work, it must have been a huge labor of love to undertake. It is so pro-sounding, pro-performed, pro-mixed. The guitar work is simply unbelievable.

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 19:13:03 (permalink)
    I'll keep this short "WOW"!


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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 19:39:36 (permalink)
    I have always loved this song and you have certainly done it justice even if it is a bit slower than the original version. I love all that you did here. It's a project that you can be proud of. 

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 21:14:54 (permalink)
    That's spectacular!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/07 23:36:53 (permalink)
    Philip, sharke - thank you

    Lynn - That's cool - I was born in Topeka, mom went to KU.  I have a strong connection to that part of the world.

    chasmcg - Thanks!

    James - Thanks a lot - yeah a labor of love.  I've done these Kansas songs in hopes to one day present them to the writer - Kerry Livgren.  I considered Song For America at first but way too complicated and too many time signatures.  So I said forget it.  Later it became a challenge.  Originally I orchestrated with GPO, but once I got into it GPO just wasn't cutting it.  So I bought EWSO and EW Solo Violin.  Took me a couple months to re-orchestrate it.  Every volume / timbre / articulation had to be painstakingly reworked.  That took the longest time.  I did the same re-work on Dust In The Wind, The Wall and Carry On My Wayward Son.

    Kev, Scotty, Old55 - thank you!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/08 15:43:22 (permalink)
    Diggin' it!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/09 12:12:12 (permalink)
    Hi Geno,

    This is just absolutely amazing on every level. Awesome!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/09 16:50:31 (permalink)
    All I can say is, "WOW!!!"

    What an excellent way to spend an afternoon trying to recoup from moving tons of snow. lol! Great vox!

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/09 17:32:07 (permalink)
    Wow you're good. Excellent.

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    Re:Song for America 2013/03/09 23:25:15 (permalink)
    jsaras - Glad you like it!

    geeare1 - Thank you!

    guitarpima - Thanks! you got snow too?

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