Hatstand
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Songs that didn't change the world
Listening to Joe Jackson's track "Everything gives you cancer" on the weekend from around 1980. Sufficient to say, almost 40 years later, the papers are still full of stories about things causing cancer. Nothing has changed! "Sunday Papers" another of his tracks also provided insight into England's failings but still here we are. Thought you might have other tracks from the past that told a relevant story but didn't change the world's opinion or direction one iota?
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 13:32:25
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Elvis Costello's 'Oliver's Army' springs to mind. It's an interesting question, and it made me wonder where all the political/protest singers are these days. In the early '80s there were plenty on the radio; Joe Jackson (as you mentioned), Costello, Paul Weller, The Specials, Billy Bragg, Midnight Oil, Peter Gabriel, The Clash etc etc.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 14:48:49
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Born In The USA. I think it was too subtle. Fantastic demo version, much better (IMHO) to the single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UBei3n4FOY. I think if he'd released this version as the single, the message may not have been overlooked.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 16:09:41
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Born In The USA.
I think it was too subtle. Fantastic demo version, much better (IMHO) to the single: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UBei3n4FOY. I think if he'd released this version as the single, the message may not have been overlooked.
I don't think the message could make it past all that reverb, myself. For me, "Rockin' in the Free World" fulfills that role. When the people being criticized adopt that as a campaign song, the song has utterly failed in its purpose.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 16:20:06
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 16:27:23
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Sadly, "Southern Man" has regained quite a bit of relevance in the last year.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/07 23:53:42
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As has "Ohio". When a politician says "We need another Kent State"...
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/08 00:45:26
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Joe Jackson's "I'm The Man." Unfortunately I'm not yet The Man 
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/08 02:03:32
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/08 03:17:58
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I would also add Sting's "Fragile" to the list. For all his cachet as an activist the world is still not listening it seems.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 02:07:28
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and one more - "War" by Edwin Starr Lots of people know it, sing it with gusto when it is played but let's face it. It hasn't stopped wars
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 08:41:59
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The relative peace in Northern Ireland does not mean the Strawbs "New World" and "Hangman and the Papist" acheived anything, the horror has just moved elsewhere.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 08:52:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjINbGQ9Vpo My man Loudon Wainwright is still doing protest songs. This was released in June 2016. Did not change anything but still funny. ( in a cringe causing, WTF happened kind of way) JR
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 09:28:09
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☄ Helpfulby bayoubill 2017/02/10 09:31:20
YMCA
That's when someone came up to me
And said, young man, take a walk up the street
There's a place there called the Y.M.C.A
They can start you back on your way
nuff said...
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 10:30:26
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Seriously has any song EVER really changed the world?
On an individual basis, sure, but globally? NEVER is what I would say.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 10:39:07
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bapu
Seriously has any song EVER really changed the world?
On an individual basis, sure, but globally? NEVER is what I would say.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 11:54:10
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 12:39:24
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Change the World?
An excellent choice! Now why didn't I think of that??? Oh, wait... I guess there's post #9. 
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 13:34:05
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'Keep on Wombling' by The Wombles.
We didn't.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 14:36:39
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All You Need Is Love, The Beatles (or was that one by the Rutles?)
Funnily enough, the B side was "Baby, You're A Rich Man". Got that one wrong as well didn'tcha John.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/10 15:02:41
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/02/11 12:39:06
Deutschland Uber Alles ?
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2017/02/12 10:52:35
The Hokey Pokey, actually told everyone what it's all about, didn't shift the paradigm one inch.
Or 2.54 centimeters, either.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/12 15:19:44
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emeraldsoul
The Hokey Pokey, actually told everyone what it's all about, didn't shift the paradigm one inch.
Or 2.54 centimeters, either.
I disagree. Like the macarana the hokey pokey had a profound influence on culture.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/12 15:20:40
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emeraldsoul
The Hokey Pokey, actually told everyone what it's all about, didn't shift the paradigm one inch.
Or 2.54 centimeters, either.
I disagree. Like the macarana the hokey pokey had a profound influence on culture.
Are you trying to turn him around? 
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/12 19:27:18
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God give me the strength such that whenever I am contradicted I don't feel persecuted.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/12 20:17:52
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THIS>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib-Qiyklq-QThe Coke commercial from 1971..... I'd love to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony...... This was of course before autotune and melodyne really made that possible. According to the evening news..... it didn't work. Possibly because they removed the main ingredient from Coca-Cola.
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Re: Songs that didn't change the world
2017/02/13 07:29:55
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Discussing this on the weekend, someone actually came up with an actual possible counter example in "Free Nelson Mandela".
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