Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio

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2013/11/25 11:31:57 (permalink)

Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio

Hi everyone,
Can anyone give me some input on these software programs?  Differences and similarities....kinds of audio finishing tools.  Do both of them allow working with 24 bit files?
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    dubdisciple
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 11:48:51 (permalink)
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 13:11:37 (permalink)
    Both work with 24bit files as all editors. While there are features that I use in SoundForge Pro, if I were to buy now, I would buy iZotope Ozone 5 and use one of the free editors when I felt the need. I do not see the value in buying SoundForge Audio Studio with free solutions like Waveshop, Wavosaur or Wavepad available.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 13:32:35 (permalink)
    It seems it should be cake for cakewalk to offer a software similar to sound forge  :D
     
    Dunno why they don't yet, doesn't everybody need a quick tool like this, including DAW owners?

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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 13:36:09 (permalink)
    Some use Pyro Audio Creator, a Cakewalk product.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 13:39:08 (permalink)
    n13L5
    It seems it should be cake for cakewalk to offer a software similar to sound forge  :D
     
    Dunno why they don't yet, doesn't everybody need a quick tool like this, including DAW owners?


    I'm guessing that the potential profit does not justify the cost of launching a new product. Launches of new dedicated editors in recent years have been mostly freeware. I can't imagine Cakewalk would be able to grab much in terms of market share.  Perhaps they will beef up some of the included tools to be closer to a dedicated wave editor like the looper tool.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 14:01:20 (permalink)
    dubdisciple
    ....Perhaps they will beef up some of the included tools to be closer to a dedicated wave editor like the looper tool.



    I'd like to see something along those lines.   In X4-X5.  

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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 14:42:50 (permalink)
    n13L5
    It seems it should be cake for cakewalk to offer a software similar to sound forge  :D
     
    Dunno why they don't yet, doesn't everybody need a quick tool like this, including DAW owners?




    Do you really want to see the limited resources of Cakewalk expended on developing a whole new application to go head to head with an industry leader, several well financed major players and a bunch of low cost or free competitors? Might be better for them to make a profit at what they do best first if you want to be getting support and upgrades for Sonar in the future.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 14:46:10 (permalink)
    I own Sound Forge Audio Studio.
     
    handles 24bit files.  easy to use.  32bit app only (sound forge pro is 32bit app only as well).
     
    check the comparison chart for features specific to each.
     
    I didn't need all the special features of sound forge Pro. 
     
    I like Audio Studio better than the freebie applications out there.  I wish there were batch conversion features.
     
    it does the job is says it will do, easy, no crashes works.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 15:04:30 (permalink)
    Regardless of which program you choose, Sound Forge has the best wave file to mp3 conversion I've ever heard.  To me, that alone is worth the price of admission.

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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 15:30:06 (permalink)
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    Do you really want to see the limited resources of Cakewalk expended on developing a whole new application to go head to head with an industry leader, several well financed major players and a bunch of low cost or free competitors? Might be better for them to make a profit at what they do best first if you want to be getting support and upgrades for Sonar in the future.



    If you put it that way...  I was hoping Cakewalk was ...err well financed?
    I guess if we're just scraping along, by all means, discard that idea! 
     
    Maybe I'll have to buy that Z3TA+2 I was on the fence about, just to make sure Cakewalk will be with us at least as far into the future as they have been with us in the past!
     
    I must say, Cakewalk is the only tech company on the planet I would be really upset if anything happened to them!  Microcruft, Crapple, Greedle, Facecrook can all go die in a fire, but Cakewalk, they are a good spirit!
     
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/25 15:37:30 (permalink)
    Since Cakewalk is owned by Gibson, they are safe for now.  i just don't think the dedicated wav editor market is there.  Too many programs include one for free.  Vets tend to have one or two already and youngsters are a hard sell on convincing them that $300 wav editor is $300 better than audacity, etc.  I have sound forge, audition, several light versions of wavelab and probably a few more freebies i forgot about.  The only value in another editor for me is if Cakewalk creates something so well integrated with Sonar that it creates a more seamless workflow.  Even then, sound forge is not going in the trash any time soon.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 01:45:17 (permalink)
    What could be more seemless than selecting a track, clip or section of track or multiples of such and with one menu selection have those bits open in a dedicated wave editor?

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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 08:06:56 (permalink)
    Thanks for all the input guys!  I think I may go with the Soundforge Audio Studio because I have an older version and it works nicely.  I just want to use 24 bit wave files.  So the upgrade will work.  I appreciated the comment on the MP3 conversion feature.  I've never used it, but I will in the future.  Thanks everyone.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 09:37:43 (permalink)
    If you just need a wave editor, Studio is fine.  Like the Studio version of Vegas, it doesn't include all the bells and whistles.  If you work in a post house or do a lot of professional work, Pro is worth the extra money.
     
    And yes, the conversion is very good.  It has too be - it is a professional tool.  You can find Studio on sale fairly cheap, esp. for what you get.  I've seen studio audio and vegas and CDA on sale for $100 packaged.  Worth it if you work a lot.  And the package work together and have the same ergonomics so it is not like learning new ways of working for those tasks.
     
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 11:44:16 (permalink)
    Every now and then Sony will offer nice upgrade deals to studio owners
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 17:44:51 (permalink)
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    Thanks for all the input guys!  I think I may go with the Soundforge Audio Studio because I have an older version and it works nicely.  I just want to use 24 bit wave files.  So the upgrade will work.  I appreciated the comment on the MP3 conversion feature.  I've never used it, but I will in the future.  Thanks everyone.




     Sony is like Cakewalk  in eventually offering a sweet upgrade to the higher product. I started out with SF Audio Studio.   Another one to consider is Goldwave.
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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 19:48:04 (permalink)
    Been using SF since CoolEdit sold out to Adobe. Great program, an industrial-strength application that is good at what it's intended for.

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    Re: Sony Soundforge Pro vs Sony Soundforge Audio Studio 2013/11/26 20:19:08 (permalink)
    Another thing to consider, Sound Forge can be accessed from Sonar's utility menu if you're not afraid of going into your registry to add it.  Once there, you can highlight any audio clip, access SF from the utility menu, and edit your clip using SF and all its tools.  The instructions for doing so can be found with a quick google search.  Todays Sonar rarely needs a wave editor, as its own tools can handle most situations, but in the rare case you need something more surgical, it's possible to have SF inside of Sonar.

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