Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs

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Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs

Answer from Native Instruments abut trouble with Komplete Kontrol S61 and Cakewalk:
 

Marcel S. @ NI Today at 16:11

Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs as you can see here:

Important Notes about KOMPLETE KONTROL MK1 Host Integration

It must also be different in its architecture than Sonar by the looks of it.

You stated that the issue occurs also using Studio One. Let's focus on this instead.

Could you please send us a short video (taken with your mobile) showing us the steps that reproduce the issue?

Best regards,
Marcel S. @ NI

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 16:40:57 (permalink)
    They don't like to support it now that it's free?

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 16:46:17 (permalink)
    Looks more like support just blew it off. CbB is essentially SONAR 2018-11. Controller support was not changed between 2018-10 and CbB. Also there is a generic listing in the link for "Other hosts with MCU support" which is all the SONAR and CbB support anyway.
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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 17:19:05 (permalink)
    Yeah.  It works EXACTLY the same way it did in Sonar.  Already played and tested. 

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 17:26:51 (permalink)
    It does.
    Think BandLab need to update them on Cakewalk.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 17:28:40 (permalink)
    By the way. I told them the problem was the same on Cakewalk, Sonar and Studio One...

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 17:30:26 (permalink)
    I am really disapointed by Native Instruments.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 17:59:31 (permalink)
    NI support hasn't been good (IMO) for a long time.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/24 20:20:27 (permalink)
    Here was my answer:
     
    How can they make the architecture different in just a month? It is the same people programming just new owners! Sorry, but I dont believe you there. And Cakewalk Sonar is also NOT WORKING! It is the same program, just with some minor changes. Cakewalk by BandLab is the continuation of Cakewalk and the DAW Sonar. Just a name change because the Gibson version is still in sale, but BandLab owns the rights to the code now. The same people are working on the DAW as when it was owned by Gibson.
    https://cakewalk.bandlab.com/
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/SONAR-f70.aspx

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/25 12:49:52 (permalink)
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    Here was my answer:
     



    Wonder how that's going to go over? Good answer and lets us know what they reply. I'm interested in the possible BS response!! : )

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/25 13:20:55 (permalink)
    NI was never supporting Sonar. They are sending a bunch of notes on channel 1 and may be reply on "Are you Mackie?" with proper "Yes, I am...". That is what "Transport control" for Sonar and other unsupported hosts means in the table.
     
    There is no required function in ACT to implement track selection and focus. Cakewalk has "hacked" something for Console 1, but I guess on VST extension level, not in ACT.
     
    In general, Cakewalk ignore surfaces, surface producers ignore Cakewalk.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/25 14:58:14 (permalink)
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    NI was never supporting Sonar. They are sending a bunch of notes on channel 1 and may be reply on "Are you Mackie?" with proper "Yes, I am...". That is what "Transport control" for Sonar and other unsupported hosts means in the table.
     
    There is no required function in ACT to implement track selection and focus. Cakewalk has "hacked" something for Console 1, but I guess on VST extension level, not in ACT.
     
    In general, Cakewalk ignore surfaces, surface producers ignore Cakewalk.


    Pretty much.
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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/25 15:04:19 (permalink)
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    I am really disapointed by Native Instruments.

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    I get the feeling they are either shrinking or treading water - I may be wrong though!

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/27 15:31:19 (permalink)
    For me, i toss out NI before i toss out CbB.
     
    He was arguing to check the Studio One, but that stated working after an update.
     
    But Cakewalk Sonar is still on their supported DAW list:
    https://support.native-instruments.com/hc/en-us/articles/210280325-Important-Notes-about-KOMPLETE-KONTROL-MK1-Host-Integration
     
    And as Gibson and BandLab had done now, yes there is noe new developing of Sonar, but it is not dead. It is still a working DAW, you can buy it, if your stupid enough (now CbB is free).
     
    So if there is a change that brakes it, I dont think there is anybody other than NI to blame.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/27 21:22:21 (permalink)
    As I have mentioned before, "Supported" are hosts with special integration. Sonar just has MCU plug-in, so they could put "transport" checkbox near it.
    BTW, what exactly is your problem? Note that companies do not pay commercial price of some people in this forum (otherwise the DAW/devices price will have at least one zero more). I mean based on money they usually pay "support" personal, a cleaning woman can give you better advise about DAWs 
     

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/27 23:41:50 (permalink)
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    As I have mentioned before, "Supported" are hosts with special integration. Sonar just has MCU plug-in, so they could put "transport" checkbox near it.
    BTW, what exactly is your problem? Note that companies do not pay commercial price of some people in this forum (otherwise the DAW/devices price will have at least one zero more). I mean based on money they usually pay "support" personal, a cleaning woman can give you better advise about DAWs 
     


    I think the same goes for Studio One. Both lack the same in functions.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/27 23:49:18 (permalink)

     
    If you see there, my problem is not dependent on MCU. Only transport control needs that. All other DAWs should be able to have full plugin control. I dont use transport control.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/28 06:28:17 (permalink)
    So, you mean your are unable to control NI instances with the keyboard?

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/28 14:44:47 (permalink)
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    So, you mean your are unable to control NI instances with the keyboard?



    The Keyboard do not get any info from the VST (Komplete Kontrol) and the VST does not react to input. other than normal midi keyboard.
     
    They work in Studio One and Cubase.

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    Re: Sorry to disappoint you, Cakewalk by BandLab is not part of the supported DAWs 2018/05/28 17:41:01 (permalink)
    Got answer from NI right now and they have finaly made this a bug report. So hopfully in the next update of "Komplete Kontroll.exe" will have a fix. He told me i could add more info if i needed so if more people have problems line this, i can give it and they will listen in that petition. Bit i dont think thay will be happy about petitions for Cakewalk intergation of more that plugin controll via Keyboard and Machine.

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