yellowcake64
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Sound bleed
Guys I know this is an elementary problem ... but I just don't seem to be able to solve it.
I record MIDI drums using EZDrummer onto a track.
Then I go to record electric guitar on track 2. I arm the track and hit record. The problem is that the drums on track one plus the metronome are being recorded onto track 2 along with the guitar.
I can obviously disable input monitoring on playback through preferences - but I can't disable it during recording itself. I don't think I've had this problem before - Lord knows why it's decided to play up today. The track input echo buttons don't seem to make any difference either. On my soundcard, ASIO direct monitoring is disabled.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks
YC
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:01:16
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What are your signal chain settings? Describe whats going where and how. Are you sure your not using the onboard sound card and have the "what you hear' enabled??
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:04:09
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Here is a thread that was just posted that may have your answer also
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yellowcake64
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:19:54
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:20:01
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Is it possible your pick ups are recording what your hearing as well? I noticed once while trying to get a good feedback going. My solution was to hear the mix in the headphones and only the guitar came through the speakers.
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:21:09
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Nah it's not that my friend!
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:40:24
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I'm a bit confused here. If I record a MIDI track and wanted to convert it to audio for mixdown, then I'd WANT this to happen. You would arm the audio track, hit record and record the MIDI track onto the audio track.
But in this case I DON'T want the MIDI track recording onto the audio track. So what enables/disables this process?
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 11:54:33
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This must be related to your interface settings.
Have you verified what CJ suggested? i.e. you're using your 2496 & not the onboard chip?
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yellowcake64
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 12:05:26
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I'm definitely using the 2496. Onboard audio is disabled in the BIOS and all sound settings on my PC are pointing to the the 2496. This really is quite bizarre!
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 13:39:06
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If I record a MIDI track and wanted to convert it to audio for mixdown, then I'd WANT this to happen. You would arm the audio track, hit record and record the MIDI track onto the audio track.
Ordinarily that shouldn't work. The fact that it does indicates you have an output routed to an input. You can't do this within Sonar. When you record a MIDI track to audio, what is the audio track input? If it's WavOut1/2, that is essentially "what you hear". This is generaly not advised, because it invites just what you are experiencing. It's better to bounce to track. What is the input of the audio track you are trying to record now? Are you sending the output from the 2496 to the MG12/4? If so, make sure that isn't being routed back to your input buss in the mixer.
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 14:39:14
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Hi Robert
I'm just messing around at the moment. What I have are MIDI drums on track 1 and I'm trying to record a guitar part on track 2. When I hit record, the drums and the metronome are being recorded on track 2 along with the guitar.
On track 2, input settings are: Stereo M-Audio Deltal ASIO Analog in 1 - Delta AP
Output is M-Audio Delta ASIO Analog out 1/2 Delta AP
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 15:36:43
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yellowcake64
Hi Robert
I'm just messing around at the moment. What I have are MIDI drums on track 1 and I'm trying to record a guitar part on track 2. When I hit record, the drums and the metronome are being recorded on track 2 along with the guitar.
On track 2, input settings are: Stereo M-Audio Deltal ASIO Analog in 1 - Delta AP
Output is M-Audio Delta ASIO Analog out 1/2 Delta AP
Thanks
YC
So the issue is: track two is receiving a mix instead of a single channel. Does analog-in 1 represent a monitor mix in the Delta, or should it represent the first *actual* input...
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 15:57:08
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This is a routing problem. How do you have your guitar connected to the computer? Somehow you are routing the playback to the input channel and so both are being recorded. Its either being done internally (so check the M-Audio control panel) or externally, perhaps through a mixer. How are you monitoring the playback, i.e., headphones or speakers?
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 16:18:03
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Chaps I've sussed it!
The problem lay with a setting on my Yamaha mixer. There's an option on each channel to either route to stereo outs or to a group (1-2). I usually have my instrument channels on the mixer going to the group output and the monitor channel going directly to the stereo outs. Someone (probably one of the kids) had pressed the (1-2) button on that channel so it was being routed to the group. Simply releasing the button cured the problem!
I told you it would be daft but you guys have been great. Thanks for all your help :-)
Cheers
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 17:44:25
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Glad you found it! I always thought sound bleed was an auditory problem, like hearing Christmas music in early November and wanting to shove pencils in my ears... 
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Re:Sound bleed
2013/02/09 22:56:08
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Glad you figured it out after I told you it could be a problem routing through a mixer. Good job! 
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