Sound break up

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2011/03/23 03:43:37 (permalink)

Sound break up

Ok.
Kinda got things sorted. The only 2 issues now are:
When I recorded a guitar, the sound broke up badly. It seems that if thers too much going on ( 1 midi track and 1 audio track? ) it freaks out and breaks up, specially when I play harder/louder. My CPU meter is barely on 1/4 usage.

Did an experimental mixdown to mp3. Volume was very low.

Your help has been appreciated thus far!
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    Kalle Rantaaho
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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/23 05:15:02 (permalink)
    Sounds like a driver problem. What are your gear and software specs?

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/23 14:06:31 (permalink)
    As far as I can tell, Sonar record and playback buffer size are both set to 512 Sample rate set to 44100
    Using LIne 6 UX1. Headphones from the UX1 to monitor 
    UX1  sample rate 44100, bit depth 16bit, default buffer 512, default bit 16. Buffer size is on extra small.

    Pentium4 2.40Ghz 1 GB RAM ( I know I need more! )
    Tried setting my PC's default sound device to UX1. Nothing changed.

    On HS7, the input/output on audio track read like this:
    Left ASIO UX1 send 1-2
    ASIO UX1 output 1-2
    Thanks in advance
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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/23 14:17:26 (permalink)
    One MIDI- and one audiotrack, hmmm - what is the MIDI-track controlling? One heavy amp simulator or other CPU hungry VST can bring your PC to stutter, but you should be able to do basic recording without big problems. Do you get "Drop out"-alarms? What does the CPU-usage meter show?

    Are you sure the "breaking" is not clipping? What do the meters say? Are you using ASIO drivers for the UX1?

    It's recommendable to export to wav and then convert to MP3, that way you have one version of the song with a proper sound quality.

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/24 01:40:30 (permalink)
    MIDI track controlling studio Instrument drums ( HS7's drum package)
    I get no drop out alarms, just the sound of almost static.
    CPU meter is barely on 1/4
    UX1 driver settings are:
    Driver operating at 44100hz
    ASIO client SONARHS.exe
    Buffer 512
    bit depth 24 bit
    Buffer extra small.
    Many, MANY thanks!
    post edited by mattmobster - 2011/03/24 01:42:12

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/25 16:15:31 (permalink)
    Please help if you can guys, I need your knowledge!
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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/25 16:45:48 (permalink)
    You did not answer my question about possible clipping and what do the level meters show.
    Are you connecting the guitar directly to soundcard? How does the resulted audio wave form look? Does it "fill" the track up to cutting or is it very low?

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/25 20:54:27 (permalink)
    Level meters are all on 1/2. As a new guy to this, I dont know what clipping is. LIke I say, it sounds as though the track breaks up into static.
    The guitar is connected directly to UX1, that is routed to pc vis usb.
    The wave form is small and does not nearly fill the track up.
    CPU meter pn 1/4 to 1/2
    Thanks again!


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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/26 05:28:44 (permalink)
    Try with bigger buffers and higher latency (you haven't told what your latency is set to in the ASIO-panel).

    It is possible, anyway, that the worst culprit is the lack of RAM and you can't get the problem solved without increasing it.

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/29 18:25:42 (permalink)
    Are you using any plugins that are not registered or activated, can cause problems. Done so, because they don't want people pirating their product. Not saying you are doing on purpose, but has happened to me using demos. Just a thought!

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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/29 20:33:14 (permalink)
    Try adjusting your 512 to 1024 (thats high but Ive heard of higher being used).  Also, is there an adjustments on the UX1 for the output signal to be adjusted to the computer? Check and adjust as recommended by Line6 then adjust the signal in X1 so it does not come close to the top (red) area.  You can also hit record when doing this and make sure the spikes arent getting cutoff on the upper and lower portion of the wave (Clipping)
     
    With your system, I would try this part with a fresh program-No Plugins or effects, just the guitar only.
     
    Let us know what ya come up with.
     
    Thanks
    post edited by digi2ns - 2011/03/29 20:37:09


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    Re:Sound break up 2011/03/29 22:18:21 (permalink)
    Also, is there an adjustments on the UX1 for the output signal to be adjusted to the computer?

    The UX-2 has direct monitoring, I assume the UX-1 does too... and I assume you can use which ever dirvers give the best sound if you use the direct monitoring because then latency isn't a problem... right? I am a bit of a newbie too, just trying to help out. I will try to use my UX-2 tomorrow and see what works best for me. I have not tried it with X1 and W7 64bit but it worked well with Sonar7 and XP with 1g of RAM... so it should be working fine. I don't think I was using ASIO then, either WDM or MME because I was recording audio and using the direct monitor. I just raised the latency until it ran well.
     
    Good luck with this Matt.
     
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