'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences

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2016/12/20 19:03:05 (permalink)

'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences

Is there any way I can get the default position in recording preferences to be set to 'SOUND ON SOUND' as opposed to Comping?
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 19:09:28 (permalink)
    Set up a Project Template. this way it will be just like a regular "New project with the exception of your Sound on sound being the default.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 19:51:13 (permalink)
    Thank you, my friend for the advice. I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 20:00:14 (permalink)
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    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    Really? I would wager that it's much more common to record multiple takes of the same part than to layer different parts on the same track. I would make the same call on the default.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 20:05:23 (permalink)
    Keano66
    Thank you, my friend for the advice. I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    No problem.
    TBH, this isn't such a big deal really. I use Project templates every project I create.
    If you haven't used them, you don't know what your missing. Set up time takes a lot of time.
    If you are using templates, Simply re save them after making the change to SOS in preferences.
     
    My default is Overwrite. I wouldn't have even known about this  change because...
    I use Templates

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 20:37:00 (permalink)
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    Keano66
    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    Really? I would wager that it's much more common to record multiple takes of the same part than to layer different parts on the same track. I would make the same call on the default.


    How do you know it's much more common? I have been a Cakewalk user from the early days and have never used comping once. 
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 21:26:25 (permalink)
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    Keano66
    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    Really? I would wager that it's much more common to record multiple takes of the same part than to layer different parts on the same track. I would make the same call on the default.


    How do you know it's much more common? I have been a Cakewalk user from the early days and have never used comping once. 


    Im not trying to take sides here, but he's right.
    Comping and the improvements that were just done to enhance take lanes is by far the number one recording mode in the industry (Not just Sonar either).
     
    I choose to do my takes a little differently.
    Im not a big fan of needling things to death, so I'm like you. I do track by track in "over-write" mode.
    My takes are on separate tracks and I don't do many as I believe it kills the realism and authenticity of music as we know it. In other words, I don't believe in making every little thing perfect, the mistakes are where the magic happens.
     
    But as far as take lanes go, you and I are a dying bread. Everyone uses them and I would have to say its probably a 80% to 20% who are not. 
     
    That Dave guy is a little rough around the edges . But he is probably one of the more helpful, smartest people you will talk to in these forums. He has helped me above and beyond. In other words, He's a good guy.
     
    Sorry for the inconvenience in recording modes but like I said, set up a project template.
    Here's a video I made a couple years back on project templates, I hope it helps.
     
     
     
    And here you can get an idea about what "Comping" has to offer

     
    However be aware that some of the shortcuts and features have changed.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 22:03:22 (permalink)
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    Keano66
    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    Really? I would wager that it's much more common to record multiple takes of the same part than to layer different parts on the same track. I would make the same call on the default.


    How do you know it's much more common? I have been a Cakewalk user from the early days and have never used comping once. 


    Well to be fair, comping didn't exist in the early days. Back then, you recorded a take and if it wasn't perfect but had pieces that might be worth keeping none the less, you muted it and created another track and recorded another take.
     
    Unless you were recording digital drum parts. Then you tended to use sound on sound to build a drum part. And while I suppose one could use sound on sound to build other parts. A piano track for instance. Creating piano parts via sound on sound is definitely not my normal work flow and I don't think I'm unusual in that respect.

     
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 22:44:51 (permalink)
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    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.

     
    To make non-frequent long-time users and returning users aware of the new feature. 
    The same applies to the Tungsten theme introduced early this year, which is now the default theme.
    I prefer overwriting recording mode and Mercury btw. 
     
     

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 23:09:05 (permalink)
    I'm sort of halfway between everyone...
     
    Like Chuck, i prefer to have as continuous a take as possible - I'm not a Mariah Carey who comps individual syllables. If a fix is needed, more and more I just do a punch, so overwrite works for me.
     
    Also remember you can right-click on the Record button, and then you're just one click away from choosing the mode.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/20 23:16:42 (permalink)
    My plan expires in January. I would be very happy to continue if the bakers could give me the option to record 'sound on sound' as default - it's the personal touch :)
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/21 00:00:41 (permalink)
    My aren't we just the special one? "I'm not into making threats or anything but retooling your software so it conforms to my personal whims is the lynch pin that hangs a single yearly subscription in the balance." Yeah, I'm sure they'll stop everything and put their best 50 people on it right away. If you listen real hard, you can almost hear the memos to the development team being typed right now.
     
    Yeah I'm picking on you a little bit but geez louise how frickin hard is it to make a template and load it on startup?

     
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/21 00:58:58 (permalink)
    Keano66
    My plan expires in January. I would be very happy to continue if the bakers could give me the option to record 'sound on sound' as default - it's the personal touch :)



    They already have. That's why there's a Normal template that will assume the defaults you want, and load automatically thereafter when you open a project.
     
    Just because you drive a new car off the dealer's lot doesn't mean the default is you have to drive away from the dealer's every day. You own the car. You can drive it where you want.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/21 01:29:37 (permalink)
    Hey, when did the default change to Comping??? How come when I OPEN a midi file it defaults to Sound on sound???
    I hate this and as said in another thread similar to this one I would like to see this option un changable once you set your preferances. 
    I always use Overwrite because why on earth would I want to keep a bad take? 
    And if I want to layer things up I want control and will add more tracks. 
    I see the benifits of Comping, great idea, but I can't progress past thinking in terms of a multi track tape machine so my world remains unchanged.. 
    SOund on sound?? can't think of one situation that I could use it for other than making a mess of things :) 
    Try it with a bass track and see if it flys. 

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/21 02:17:54 (permalink)
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    Keano66
    I still question why the Bakers feel that the default position should be 'Comping'.


    Really? I would wager that it's much more common to record multiple takes of the same part than to layer different parts on the same track. I would make the same call on the default.


    How do you know it's much more common? I have been a Cakewalk user from the early days and have never used comping once. 


    Just to be clear, using Comp Recording mode doesn't mean you have to comp together pieces of different takes. It just means that when you record a new take, you don't hear the previous ones, and the ultimate intent is to end up with one good take playing. Sound on Sound mode assumes you want to hear all takes playing together and doesn't automatically mute previous takes for you.
     
    If you're always using Sound on Sound mode, I assume you're manually muting previous takes in the situation where others would use Comp Record mode to have it done automatically.

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/21 02:27:01 (permalink)
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    That's why there's a Normal template that will assume the defaults you want, and load automatically thereafter when you open a project.
     



    just wanted to highlight that so it does not get buried underneath the venting ...
     
    there is no one size fits all. if there are already means to customize to your workflow, go and learn about it

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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/22 07:02:27 (permalink)
    As ever, I am grateful to all those who responded to my post. Chuckebaby and Anderton, in particular - very grateful for your input. Respect.
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    Re: 'Sound on Sound' in recording Preferences 2016/12/22 07:33:07 (permalink)
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    As ever, I am grateful to all those who responded to my post. Chuckebaby and Anderton, in particular - very grateful for your input. Respect.

    No probs man.
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