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2018/11/21 14:15:34 (permalink)

SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame...

this is my response:
 
This is a version of Badinerie i programed today. It is not others work other that Bach himself who wrote the work. But I am really flattered that you think my programming with the sound of IK-Multimedia - Miroslav Philharmonik 2, is as good as an live recording of an orchestra. I am humbled by that.
 
And If the Original recording would be authentic to Baroque Music, it would not be recorded in A=440 Hz, but rather lover down towards 415.30 Hz that is G# something your algorithm should pick up.
 
A Baroque recording should not be in 440 Hz. But for noobs like me, we do, because we uses sampled instruments like the IK-Multimedia - Miroslav Philharmonik 2, Native Instruments Symphony Series and so on. Those takes time to retune to a authentic tuning as the Baroque music should have.
 
But thank you again, for saying it is as good as the real deal.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/21 14:21:27 (permalink)
LOL!
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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/21 15:00:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ØSkald 2018/11/21 15:39:50
Shirley they're Baching up the wrong tree....good for you though.
Post it on Youtube, it may go viral.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/21 21:32:33 (permalink)
The guys only been dead 400 years, you would think his stuff is in the public domain. Check those algorhythms...

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/21 21:38:34 (permalink)
he's got damn good lawyers.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/22 01:08:38 (permalink)
I wouldn't have even entertained those morons. I would have simply told them to put it back up because it is my own production of a work that is in the public domain.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/28 02:46:33 (permalink)
Interesting choice.  Is he making a comebach?
 

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/28 17:10:38 (permalink)
Interesting topic...
 
Found the article below regarding derivatives (copyrighted arrangements) of public domain music that MAY be copyrighted:
 
Avoiding problems with public domain music
http://www.publicdomainsh...blic-domain-music.html

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/28 18:10:11 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bjornpdx 2018/11/28 19:18:42
Inclined to have some fun with the copyright police? 
 
Here is a free sheet music website, all in the Public Domain, or under Creative Commons licenses.  http://www.mutopiaproject.org/
 
Available in PDF or MIDI file formats.  Lots of old classical stuff here!  > http://www.mutopiaproject.org/collections.html
 
 

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/28 18:32:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/11/28 19:53:51
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Found the article below regarding derivatives (copyrighted arrangements) of public domain music that MAY be copyrighted:
 
Avoiding problems with public domain music
http://www.publicdomainsh...blic-domain-music.html




In a similar vein, back in '87 I was contracted to record 5 of my own originals songs for a national radio program. I was paid for doing it, and they played each song 5 times and 5 times only.  If they were to play them after that, I'd have to receive more royalties.  So they've sat in the vault (or erased?) for over 30 years now, unplayed.
 
However...
 
From the start, I've never been allowed to shop those recordings around to other stations, nor use them on any albums I make, nor post them online - even if it's non-profit.
I do own the songs, and have complete copyright on them, but the radio network owns those versions that were recorded for their program.  I can re-record them, even if I do them exactly as before, but those particular versions are theirs, and I can't touch them.
 
Copyright is a strange land to navigate.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/11/30 13:35:14 (permalink)
This might be something that the Electronic Frontier Foundation might be interested in. Along with other provacy and IP issues, they also fight against copyright trolls. https://www.eff.org/issues/copyright-trolls

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/03 17:06:37 (permalink)
did they say who the claim was from??

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/03 21:14:49 (permalink)
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did they say who the claim was from??


It was a Automatic claim. it was just 5-10 seconds after I had saved the song on there.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/03 21:16:23 (permalink)
Who identified the copyright "infringement" is an important issue. Soundcloud typically uses a robot detection system on uploaded material to determine if it "matches" something in their database. If Soundcloud itself claims the infringement, then it should be cleared up by filing a dispute with SoundCloud. There are also for-profit services that use similar technology to dredge online sites for work that their clients pay them to find and either demand payment for or issue a DMCA takedown notice. If a copyright "owner" issues a takedown notice, then most likely you will need to respond to that in a specific legal format, in which case Soundcloud will have to re-instate your work unless the DMCA issuer objects, in which case he will have to file suit for copyright infringement within a short period of time, or lose his right to take the work down. With a work that is clearly in the public domain, and this would not include original ancient work that has been rearranged by a modern author, then the only right in serious question would be the mechanical rights to the recording, which does not apply in this case.


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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/03 21:23:17 (permalink)
It was clearly a robot. They have reinstated it, but I do not use that site to be found by others. I just use it to show of half made work to people involved and sites like this. It irritates me a little that people I don’t know or want to listen to my music finds it there. It doesn’t happen to much tho. I will never put on my final work on there. Then I at least should make an account for that project/band/artist.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/04 02:35:42 (permalink)
Doug Marks (of Metal Method guitar lesson fame) periodically gets takedown notices claiming copyright infringement for his own videos from Tunecore. Pretty amazing, since some of them date from not only before Tunecore existed, but before Al Gore even invented the internet.

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/04 16:35:22 (permalink)
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did they say who the claim was from??


It was a Automatic claim. it was just 5-10 seconds after I had saved the song on there.


ah, that's such bullsh1t

just a sec

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Re: SoundCloud removed my recording of Bach as a copyright clame... 2018/12/04 16:36:09 (permalink)
bdickens before Al Gore even invented the internet.





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