Helpful ReplySpeaker Chatter

Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Author
Bristol_Jonesey
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 16775
  • Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
  • Location: Bristol, UK
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/26 17:09:50 (permalink)
I'd also recommend switching off EVERYTHING that is not needed.
 
Run as bare bones a system as you can - pc, monitors, interface &, er, monitors. Nothing else. Try to ensure that all mains cables are connected as close as possible to a Star System so that everything only comes out of one wall outlet.
 
If this DOES alleviate the problem you can identify the culprit by plugging stuff back in, one at a time until the noise comes back
post edited by Bristol_Jonesey - 2016/09/26 17:31:20

CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
Custom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
#31
JustGotPaid
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 628
  • Joined: 2007/03/26 23:52:28
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/26 17:35:34 (permalink)
Update. The Focusrite 6i6 is used with the power plugged up.

Sonar Platinum
 
#32
Kev999
Max Output Level: -36 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 3922
  • Joined: 2007/05/01 14:22:54
  • Location: Victoria, Australia
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/26 18:28:56 (permalink)
Slightly off-topic, but...
I recently discovered that any project containing the softsynth GSI VB3 (Hammond Organ) emits a constant pulsating noise even when idle. It is only noticable when the volume is turned up high and disappears when the synth is turned off. Also I believe that the UAD EMT250 reverb is hissy when idle, although I've never checked this out. Maybe there are other noisy plugins too.

SonarPlatinum(22.11.0.111)|Mixbus32C(4.3.19)|DigitalPerformer(9.5.1)|Reaper(5.77)
FractalDesign:DefineR5|i7-6850k@4.1GHz|16GB@2666MHz-DDR4|MSI:GamingProCarbonX99a|Matrox:M9148(x2)|UAD2solo(6.5.2)|W7Ult-x64-SP1
Audient:iD22+ASP800|KRK:VXT6|+various-outboard-gear|+guitars&basses, etc.
Having fun at work lately
#33
Mosvalve
Max Output Level: -67 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1194
  • Joined: 2009/11/20 20:49:33
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/26 21:04:16 (permalink)
I was having an issue where I can actually hear the hard drives chugging as well as other noise. It seemed to be a grounp loop issue. What I did was used a  Prong to 2 Prong Grounding Converter. One one my interface and one on my speakers and all went quiet. Don't know if this could be your issue but it may be worth a try. Here is a link about ground loops which is what led me to investigate groung loop issues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YM1iwC6vhg
 

BobV 
 
 
 
ASUS Prime Z370-P - Intel Core i7+ 8700K 3.7GHZ 16GB Memory, Intel HD Graphics 630 GPU,  Windows 10 Pro 64bit,  , Sonar Platinum 64bit, Motu 828MK3 Hybrid, Warm Audio TB12 Pre, Warm Audio WA273 Pre, AEA RPQ 500 Pre, Warm Audio WA76 Compressor, Presonus D8 Pre, Tonelux EQ5P 500 Eq, Kush Electra 500 Eq, Lindell PEX 500 Eq, Yamaha 80M monitors with HS10W Sub,  and a bunch of other good stuff. I have a Roland Juno-106 that's looking for a new home. PM me.
#34
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Max Output Level: -47 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2819
  • Joined: 2011/02/03 04:31:35
  • Location: Sound-Rehab, Austria
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/27 01:35:25 (permalink)
Bristol_Jonesey
I'd also recommend switching off EVERYTHING that is not needed.
 



that includes air conditioning, heating, cell phones, burglar alarms, missile defence systems, news on politics, news on economy, vegan cooking, divorce lawyer communication, ... 

GOOD TUNES LAST FOREVER
  +++   Visit the Rehab   +++
 
DAW: Platinum/X3e, win10 64 bit, i7-3930K (6x3.2GHz), Asus Sabertooth X79, 32 GB DDR3 1600MHz, ATI HD 5450, 120 GB SSD OCZ Agility3, 2x 1TB WD HDD SATA 600
Audio-Interface: 2x MOTU 1248 AVB, Focusrite OctoPre, (Roland Octa-Capture)   Control-Surface: VS-700C 
VSTi: WAVES, NI K10u, FabFilter, IK, ... (too many really) 
#35
Bristol_Jonesey
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 16775
  • Joined: 2007/10/08 15:41:17
  • Location: Bristol, UK
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/27 04:07:57 (permalink)
He's got a missile defence system in his studio ????
 
Wow, way to go.......

CbB, Platinum, 64 bit throughout
Custom built i7 3930, 32Gb RAM, 2 x 1Tb Internal HDD, 1 x 1TB system SSD (Win 7), 1 x 500Gb system SSD (Win 10), 2 x 1Tb External HDD's, Dual boot Win 7 & Win 10 64 Bit, Saffire Pro 26, ISA One, Adam P11A,
#36
Rob[at]Sound-Rehab
Max Output Level: -47 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2819
  • Joined: 2011/02/03 04:31:35
  • Location: Sound-Rehab, Austria
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/27 04:56:36 (permalink)
Bristol_Jonesey
He's got a missile defence system in his studio ????
 
Wow, way to go.......




if you haven't got one yet, I'm sure you can get one online real quick ;-) sweetwater, thomann, amazon, ... just don't fall for the next monthly subscription fee

GOOD TUNES LAST FOREVER
  +++   Visit the Rehab   +++
 
DAW: Platinum/X3e, win10 64 bit, i7-3930K (6x3.2GHz), Asus Sabertooth X79, 32 GB DDR3 1600MHz, ATI HD 5450, 120 GB SSD OCZ Agility3, 2x 1TB WD HDD SATA 600
Audio-Interface: 2x MOTU 1248 AVB, Focusrite OctoPre, (Roland Octa-Capture)   Control-Surface: VS-700C 
VSTi: WAVES, NI K10u, FabFilter, IK, ... (too many really) 
#37
MarioD
Max Output Level: -72 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 901
  • Joined: 2006/04/15 15:59:50
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/27 16:00:28 (permalink)
Bristol_Jonesey
He's got a missile defence system in his studio ????
 
Wow, way to go.......




No those were not missile defense rockets.  Those were two lava lamps

The reason people say the vinyl sounds better is because the music was better.
 
Sonar Platinum, Intel i7 –2600 CPU @ 3.2 GHz, 16 GB ram, 2x2TB internal drives and 1 1TB internal drive, Radeon HD 5570 video card, HP 25" monitor,
Roland Octa Capture, MOTU Midi Express 128, Win 10 Pro

 
www.soundcloud.com/Mario_Guitar
#38
Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
Cakewalk Staff
  • Total Posts : 6475
  • Joined: 2003/11/03 17:22:50
  • Location: Boston, MA, USA
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/27 16:17:35 (permalink)
This is a grounding problem in the PC or one of the components. This can be hellishly difficult or impossible to fully solve since it can be a combination of issues causing the problem.
My old DAW had this issue where I would get RF noise leaking into my signal through the audio interface. In my case it definitely had to do with some Roland gear I was plugging into my Audio interface. 
 
I ended up reducing the noise a lot by switching off all dimmer circuits as well as using ferrite cores on all cables in the system. I also use a HumX which works fairly well. However even with that I would randomly sometimes pick up weird RF noise. It turned out that there was a radio station within 5 miles of my house. I had an electrician come over once and he told me someone complained of voices in their house - it turned out the signal was so strong that wires in the house were actually inducing and acoustically playing back radio. I didn't even know that was possible :-P
post edited by Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk] - 2016/09/27 16:40:53

Noel Borthwick
Senior Manager Audio Core, BandLab
My Blog, Twitter, BandLab Profile
#39
JustGotPaid
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 628
  • Joined: 2007/03/26 23:52:28
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 02:12:32 (permalink)
That's quite interesting Noel. Do you know if this is mainly a PC issue or does it happen with Macs equally?

Sonar Platinum
 
#40
patm300e
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 845
  • Joined: 2007/09/28 09:14:18
  • Location: USA - Maryland
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 08:26:26 (permalink)
My OLD DAW (AMD 8 core with Gigabyte Motherboard) had the same issue.  I never could get rid of it.  So I made the 8 core my "Media" server with 2 TB Windows storage drives.  That is where I back everything up.
 
I was using the i3 (ASUS motherboard) as the Media server.  Just repurposed both of them and all is quiet now!
 
 

SPLAT on a Home built i3 16 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10 Home Premium 120GB SSD (OS) 2TB Data Drive.  Behringer XR-18 USB 2.0 Interface. FaderPort control.
#41
JustGotPaid
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 628
  • Joined: 2007/03/26 23:52:28
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 13:48:12 (permalink)
Here's the update. The machine has really gone bonkers now and it's practically a waste of time trying to even listen to MP3's or YouTube on it now. The guy who built it thinks it's the mother board. Whatever it is, I think that computer is soon to be retired and scrapped. It's just not worth it anymore. Something is really wrong with it, and it keeps getting worse, and there is no need spending money doing exploratory surgery when the same money can be applied to a good laptop.
 
This is the new plan. He's going to use one of my MacBooks and start with Logic while waiting for SONAR to come out for MAC. If he can get SONAR to work good on the MAC then I hope his problems are solved. A Windows laptop was discussed and was the original plan, but I cautioned him that there is no guarantee that any Windows laptop will work, but it's practically guaranteed that Logic is going to work on a MAC, and since SONAR for MAC is scheduled for release any time now, he's changed his mind to try the MAC. It's mine and he can use it all he wants for free until he sees if all this is going to work. That's the safest route.
 
We don't want to get into an technical licensing issue, so if any of this is outside the Cakewalk policy, please let us know. For all practical purposes the MacBook will be his, even before he purchases it. He's just getting a 30 day test drive like most other warranties provide. He will put his X3 on it when it's ready for Mac and after he has possession of the MacBook. I'm not transferring anything that has a Cakewalk product already on it. I don't think it matters to Apple if Logic goes with a machine that is sold.
 
If I'm wrong about the licensing, please let me know.
 
Thanks!
DS

Sonar Platinum
 
#42
pinguinotuerto
Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 976
  • Joined: 2009/12/01 18:46:41
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 14:00:35 (permalink)
JustGotPaid
This is the new plan. He's going to use one of my MacBooks and start with Logic while waiting for SONAR to come out for MAC. If he can get SONAR to work good on the MAC then I hope his problems are solved. A Windows laptop was discussed and was the original plan, but I cautioned him that there is no guarantee that any Windows laptop will work, but it's practically guaranteed that Logic is going to work on a MAC, and since SONAR for MAC is scheduled for release any time now, he's changed his mind to try the MAC. It's mine and he can use it all he wants for free until he sees if all this is going to work. That's the safest route.


I've been running SONAR on a stock HP laptop since 2009. I don't understand your concern.

HP DV7-3085 Laptop (Intel Core i7 720 1.6 GHZ, 6 GB RAM, 1333 MHZ FSB, 2 500GB 7200 RPM Internal HDs, 17" screen), HP 2009m Monitor, 2TB Ext Drive
Line 6 UX8 with PodFarm 2 Platinum

2 Joe Meek VC6Q British Channels
Sonar Platinum & X3e Producer (64 Bit)

AD2 w Roland V-Drums (TD4KX2)
Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)

KRK VXT 8 Monitors
Frontier Alphatrack, Razer Naga Mouse, nanoKontrol2
 

#43
JustGotPaid
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 628
  • Joined: 2007/03/26 23:52:28
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 14:39:15 (permalink)
My concern is that he's had so much trouble that he wants something that is basically guaranteed to work so he can start recording and enjoying this again. He's been fighting this fight for weeks, if not well over a month. He hasn't had the best luck with Windows. You have been running SONAR on Windows since 2009 without any trouble, but he has a relatively new and certainly powerful desktop machine that is buggy and snake-bit. It's just not going to work.
 
I'm running Platinum on a HP also, and it works fine. However, I attempted a trial of one of the SONAR programs on another laptop recently without the same good results. It may just need updates, and I'm still working with it, so eventually it may work fine. But he'll be getting to test a machine to try with no obligations, and if he likes it he can buy it for half of what a comparable new Windows 10 laptop would cost.
 
I know my MacBook runs Logic without a hitch. I'm not much of a Logic fan, but it's rock solid and compatibility is never an issue. I don't see why SONAR won't run fine on this Macbook when it's MAC ready. In that case he will have two good recording programs on the same laptop. He is a very dedicated SONAR guy, and so am I now, but Apple has lots of loops and other fun stuff that I like working with from time to time and I'm sure he will too.
 
We both strongly prefer SONAR, but if he's going to see how he likes Apple he might as well have Logic also to work with now while we wait for the Mac ready version of SONAR.
 
DS

Sonar Platinum
 
#44
pinguinotuerto
Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 976
  • Joined: 2009/12/01 18:46:41
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/28 14:48:08 (permalink)
Makes sense!

HP DV7-3085 Laptop (Intel Core i7 720 1.6 GHZ, 6 GB RAM, 1333 MHZ FSB, 2 500GB 7200 RPM Internal HDs, 17" screen), HP 2009m Monitor, 2TB Ext Drive
Line 6 UX8 with PodFarm 2 Platinum

2 Joe Meek VC6Q British Channels
Sonar Platinum & X3e Producer (64 Bit)

AD2 w Roland V-Drums (TD4KX2)
Windows 7 Home Premium (64 bit)

KRK VXT 8 Monitors
Frontier Alphatrack, Razer Naga Mouse, nanoKontrol2
 

#45
slartabartfast
Max Output Level: -22.5 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 5289
  • Joined: 2005/10/30 01:38:34
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/29 15:16:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Bristol_Jonesey 2016/09/29 17:42:01
JustGotPaid
... he wants something that is basically guaranteed to work so he can start recording and enjoying this again. 



This should be the Serenity Prayer for DAW users.
#46
John
Forum Host
  • Total Posts : 30467
  • Joined: 2003/11/06 11:53:17
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/29 17:56:59 (permalink)
I have a tablet that runs Sonar Platinum. It has a 4 core Atom CPU and only 2 GB of memory running Windows 10 UA. I have a Laptop a Lenovo Thinkpad X220T that has an i7 dual core with hyperthreading and 4 GB memory running Windows 10 AU. (I will be increasing the memory to 8GB soon and upgrade to 64 bit on it.) This laptop is a full fledge laptop and a tablet with pen and touch input.  It runs Sonar very well indeed and my custom built by me desktop running Windows 10 AU 64 bit with a Q6600 and 8GB memory.  
 
All of them run Sonar well. The X220T is good to go for remote recording with a proper multi input USB audio interface. 
 
Nothing wrong with a Macbook but one can get a great laptop running Windows that is a fraction of the cost especially if you go with a refurbished one as I did. 
 
 

Best
John
#47
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9871
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/29 18:26:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Zargg71 2016/09/29 19:18:34
A computer guaranteed to work well as a DAW...  
Hmmm... I wonder where you can find something like that?   

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#48
JustGotPaid
Max Output Level: -78 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 628
  • Joined: 2007/03/26 23:52:28
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/30 00:59:56 (permalink)
I agree with John and Jim, and many others here. I agree with the "great computer" notion of MS Windows. I deplore the world of Apple, but like many, I tried it and it was always an uncomfortable foreign language in an uncomfortable foreign land.
 
Jim, my disclaimer was "basically guaranteed!" Haha. I think Logic on a Mac comes pretty close to that. His frustration level is out the roof...and I was afraid he was going to throw that snack-bit computer off the roof too! He finally gave it to his son the other day and he and some college buddies are going to change mother boards and trick it out every way they can in hopes of making it a gamer. They are a good age to attempt that and will probably do something that will make them all look like a genius.
 
Basically he's going to borrow my MacBook and try Logic while we wait for a Mac-ready version of Sonar to be available. The MacBook is several years old and it will be a friend-to-friend discount just to help him get back to recording. That's the only free route for the interim, and Logic on a Mac is the safest bet I know of when it comes to compatibility. If he can get his paid version of X3 Studio (I think it's called.) to run good on the MacBook I'll sell it to him cheap.
 
Ideally, we both want to be on a Windows laptop with Sonar so we can carry our recorders back and forth when we visit. Portability has always been very important to me, and he sees how convenient it is, and we live 15 miles apart in different towns, so we have to travel some with our song projects.
 
Totally off topic, but do we have any Nashville SONAR users on the forum here?
 
I'll keep you updated, and I appreciate all of these really interesting ideas, experiences, and discussion on all of this.
DS

Sonar Platinum
 
#49
patm300e
Max Output Level: -74 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 845
  • Joined: 2007/09/28 09:14:18
  • Location: USA - Maryland
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/30 07:18:05 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
A computer guaranteed to work well as a DAW...  
Hmmm... I wonder where you can find something like that?   



From StudioCat.com of course and still probably cheaper than a MAC.
 

SPLAT on a Home built i3 16 GB RAM 64-bit Windows 10 Home Premium 120GB SSD (OS) 2TB Data Drive.  Behringer XR-18 USB 2.0 Interface. FaderPort control.
#50
z1812
Max Output Level: -85 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 294
  • Joined: 2006/05/27 17:40:17
  • Location: Toronto, Ontario
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/30 08:22:24 (permalink)
I had exactly the same problem. I bought a ground isolator , put it between my audio interface and speakers and the problem was resolved. Before installing the isolator I had to keep the volume on my monitors very, very low for them to be of any use at all. Now I can turn the volume up all the way without problems.
#51
Jim Roseberry
Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 9871
  • Joined: 2004/03/23 11:34:51
  • Location: Ohio
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/30 09:51:39 (permalink)
I have seen a poor quality USB cable induce ground related "digital hash" type noise.
I had a Motif ES7 connected via USB... and was hearing this odd noise.
Finally traced it down to the Motif ES7.  Disconnected the USB cable... and the noise was gone.
Replaced the USB cable... reconnected the ES7... and no more noise.

Best Regards,

Jim Roseberry
jim@studiocat.com
www.studiocat.com
#52
jimkleban
Max Output Level: -64 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 1319
  • Joined: 2008/11/09 09:42:45
  • Status: offline
Re: Speaker Chatter 2016/09/30 14:10:47 (permalink)
Hmmm... a crappy USB cable????? Never thought of that.  Thanks for the info.
 
Jim

The Lamb Laid Down on MIDI
www.lldom.com
 
Studio Cat Custom i7 with Thunderbolt (wonderful system built and configured by our own Jim R)
Apollo Duo (via TB)
UAD Quad
UAD Duo
WIN 8.1 x64 with 32 GB Ram
4 SSD for programs and sample libraries
Splat (latest version)
#53
Page: < 12 Showing page 2 of 2
Jump to:
© 2025 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1