BassRocket
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Speaking of Take Lanes...
Hey Beautiful People...
The Take Lane feature is awesome, but I'm still having challenges utilizing it.
Simply put, once I've got a bunch of takes, I have two big problems.
1. I don't know how to pick a particular take and use it in the track (clip?). Other than soloing the Take I want to use, and then closing the take lanes, I don't actually know what I'm doing. And the (clip?) appears greyed out, or sometimes disappears altogether. But strangely, i can make it audible with this method of soloing a particular take, then closing the take lanes button. This is my main problem.
2. How do you properly split up parts from different takes and make them into one?
Thanks everyone! I'd be belly up without all your help!
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 15:16:30
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 15:17:37
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May not be much help cause I don't have the link available at the moment but search youtube (CakeTV?) for videos on comping, it explains it well. The "k" keystroke will be your friend for muting and unmuting takes to promote the one you want to the track lane. Hth.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 16:00:31
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BassRocket
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 16:30:11
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BassRocket
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 16:48:19
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I will definitely check out the infamous K key!
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 18:30:57
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BassRocket
I will definitely check out the infamous K key!
"K" is one of my favorite key bindings  That, and "D" 
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/20 20:56:27
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This may not be the most elegant method, but in order to keep takes organized I create a new blank Take Lane and put it at the top of the Take Lanes for that track. Next, I split the clips in each take lane at logical points. As I go through and listen to the clips, I move the ones I deem the best to that top Take Lane.
Usually I'm doing this with a vocal track and working phrase by phrase. So let's say I'm working on the lead vocal for Verse 1. I'll select all of those clips in all of the Take Lanes, mute them, and then one by one unmute/listen/mute until I decide on the clip I want. Each clip I move to the top Take Lane remains unmuted so that I can hear how the next clip I audition blends with what I've chosen up to that point.
When I'm finished, the audio wave form I see in the Track View is the collection of the unmuted clips that I moved to the top Take Lane.
Note: I like to preserve the raw recorded audio in the original track(s), so before I start Comping, I Clone the raw track(s) and then Comp the clone.
I hope that helps you in some way.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/22 12:45:11
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Thanks! I have so much to learn.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/22 13:08:42
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This may not be the most elegant method, but in order to keep takes organized I create a new blank Take Lane and put it at the top of the Take Lanes for that track. Next, I split the clips in each take lane at logical points. As I go through and listen to the clips, I move the ones I deem the best to that top Take Lane.
I do this as well. Works great
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/22 13:41:13
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Put me in the "dumb" category with take lanes. I've watched videos on how to do it and still completely lost. I just make a new "audio" track and record on that instead of take lanes. I can cut and paste parts if needed.
I can do a lot in Sonar, but I hit a blank with take lanes.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/22 15:31:50
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☄ Helpfulby almeister 2017/06/22 17:40:21
olemon
This may not be the most elegant method, but in order to keep takes organized I create a new blank Take Lane and put it at the top of the Take Lanes for that track. Next, I split the clips in each take lane at logical points. As I go through and listen to the clips, I move the ones I deem the best to that top Take Lane. I use this same method except I don't move the chosen clips to another take lane. I change the clip background color, (in my case, a bright yellow). Now I can maneuver through the track and even if I accidentally mute or unmute a clip I can always find the clip I initially chose. I can also easily select and highlight an additional clip and make the final decision later. When I'm ready, I just delete the muted clips and I'm good to go. HTH Paul
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/22 17:46:08
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Paul G
olemon
This may not be the most elegant method, but in order to keep takes organized I create a new blank Take Lane and put it at the top of the Take Lanes for that track. Next, I split the clips in each take lane at logical points. As I go through and listen to the clips, I move the ones I deem the best to that top Take Lane.
I use this same method except I don't move the chosen clips to another take lane. I change the clip background color, (in my case, a bright yellow). Now I can maneuver through the track and even if I accidentally mute or unmute a clip I can always find the clip I initially chose. I can also easily select and highlight an additional clip and make the final decision later.
When I'm ready, I just delete the muted clips and I'm good to go.
HTH
Paul
Thanks for posting this. Again, I find something that shows me "I don't know, what I don't know" :) I use takes for comping and just mute and unmute to promote to track. Sometimes I find one I like but when I move on I sometimes can't find the one I previously liked, if I change its color, that will make it easier to find, not to mention I could "color code" to set priority i.e. green=really like, yellow= workable etc. etc. Thanks again for a great idea.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/24 02:16:27
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almeister
...if I change its color, that will make it easier to find, not to mention I could "color code" to set priority i.e. green=really like, yellow= workable etc. etc.
Oooh... I like that idea.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/24 10:13:54
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almeister
...if I change its color, that will make it easier to find, not to mention I could "color code" to set priority i.e. green=really like, yellow= workable etc. etc.
Oooh... I like that idea.
Me too. Will start using this immediately (Why didn't I think of this myself  )
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/06/25 00:59:33
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I hope I've understood where you guys are at, but here's my input:
If you are using take lanes, the Smart tool will change the cursor to what looks like a honey scoop when moved to the bottom half of a clip.
Clicking here will select the clip and mute all the others in that stack of clips.
The clip will also appear in the main track at the top.
Once you have the selection of clips you like, you have some choices.
1. Flatten the comp (right click and select Flatten comp) or...
2. Close the take lanes and copy (Ctrl+drag 'n' drop) the track into a fresh, empty track.
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Re: Speaking of Take Lanes...
2017/07/07 22:20:25
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Thanks everyone!
I guess there's several ways to go about take lanes (as is everything with Sonar).
I also like the color coding idea. Simple genius.
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