Splitting L and R of audio in

Grrarrr!

Hey guys, haven't posted here in a while. When I first bought P5 I had some strong words about the fact that only one audio interface driver could be selected at a time. This was actually a show stopper for me. I put P5 on the shelf for a while, but recently started up a new band where P5 seemed to be the ticket.

So P5 is handling guitar (with effects) plus softsynth duty for me live. The laptop I'm running has mucho additional power on tap, and the audio card has stereo ins - the guitar on left, or channel 1. The obvious next step is to put vocals on R, channel 2, so that I can tailor vocal effects for each song during performance.

This is where the perfectly arbitrary crippling of P5 bites me in the a$$ again: I can add two audio tracks, one from the left in and one from the right, but I can only enable one at a time. GOD CAKEWALK PLEASE PATCH/ UNBREAK THIS!!! Whew... anyway...

I'll settle for a workaround, but I fear the routing options in P5 may be too limited. So my question is: Is there a way to split a stereo input, ie. to the aux busses or in some other fashion, so that you've got left on one bus and right on another independently? My aim in this is to treat L and R as two different sources, and apply different effects to them.

I was stopped dead in my tracks during rehearsal last night because I'd forgotten about this SILLY limitation. P5 brings 99.9% of what I need to the table for live use, and falls down right here. It's really frustrating, and I'm certain it's really unnecessary.

If there's no workaround, then I guess I'm Ableton-bound, but I've really gotten comfortable with everything else in P5 and I'm addicted to DimPro. Serious bummer.

Now that I think about it...it really would be part & parcel of THIS FEATURE REQUEST.

Yes, but I think if we ask for the sun and moon, we'll take delivery of nothing at all. When I first posted (long ago) about how absurd it seemed to me that P5 didn't expose all the inputs on my sound adaptor, the general response on this forum was that I was crazy (pretty much how I felt...) and that P5 was intended primarily as a MIDI app and audio wasn't a focus. It still seemed to me like all the parts were there, and there was no reason my investment in audio hardware ought to be nerfed at the front end. Anyway, I gave up that fight.

So if I do bother with a feature request at this point, I'll keep it to the bare minimum, in hopes that maybe Cake will actually think about it. ie. I can maybe limp along with the two channels of input provided, but I would hope to be able to create a mono audio track for each have them both enabled simultaneously. I can't see where this would present any special challenge to an app that can already mix an arbitrary number of softsynth sources, or a stereo audio in for that matter.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. It's nice just to hear from someone who agrees this is a problem.

Ok forgive me if I'm wrong cuz I'm on the laptop and I usually don't run audio to it. Is it not possible to insert 2 audio tracks and then choose one for the left channel and one for the right channel? Is this what you are trying to achieve?



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3Eo

does that work for you 3EO? I've never gotten two tracks to take regardless of how I route it.

I'm not at home so I can't test it on the DAW. I have never tried to run 2 audio inputs at one time in P5. If you look at those things called meters they were both registering noise from the laptop soundcard. Now, whether it's from individual channels, I don't know.

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3Eo

Marc, I totally agree with ya. It's a shame they bragged about how great the tool is for performance and yet it doesn't address some of the simplest AUDIO functions that are a necessity for recording LIVE PERFORMANCE. Same frustrations we heard when 'hardknocklife' was crying for a way to perform songs one after another without having to load them one at a time and only after the first song is done. It needs to do some real damage control in this area if it is to redeem itself as a performance application in my opinion.
Yeah...MIDI performance is one thing. I really hope the implement changes here...I'll send em an FR too. Maybe there's power in numbers?

yes but there is a lot to be said about doing your homework before you purchase.

Nice... So to teach me a lesson, let's hope no further improvements are ever applied? No matter how obvious or trivial?

Short of living with a demo long enough for this particular problem to present, "homework" would not have sufficed. I defy anyone to find the marketing blurb where Cake announced to potential buyers that the exciting new audio features would be 90% disabled for no good reason.

LOL
K, I'm on it!
And again, I'm one of the guys that DID DO his homework...it's more of a matter of growing out of certain parts of the application faster than they adapt it. Usually they've been puttin' in more than I can ever hope to even get to (Groove matrix, cyclone, etc)...
But I think Marc's point was that if someone was doin' there homework they'd have read about HOW GREAT P5 is for LIVE stuff and in this case, it really stinks.

NO you didnt. You're just pulling our leg.




Right?

Am I missing something because I just played, monitored and recorded 2 tracks setup like the picture minus the hard pans.

?!?!?!?!!?

I just don't know what to say. This is plain old impossible on my system. If I could do what you're describing I would be a happy camper.

Are you sure you are monitoring both tracks through P5 (and not through some form of zero-latency hardware routing?) To prove this conclusively, apply independent effects to each channel, and confirm that the whole shebang is monitored in realtime.

Beyond that, I don't know what to say. On my system, if I enable one track (with the top left-button in the track, just above arm for recording), the other is automatically and sadistically disabled.

Short of living with a demo long enough for this particular problem to present

there you go. to select input monitoring on both tracks hold down cntrl key while selecting.

if it's that simple

It is.

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3Eo