Stability Question/ Poll Sort Of

64 bit/windows 8(ran it on 7 with the same results)/64 bit sonar x2
rock solid.

ive had 4 crashes since it came out back in October.

now do the track lanes anoy me ? sure.
does the aim asst not read the correct timeframes ? sure

but what can I say,im very happy.

I would look at 32 bit plug ins in a 64 bit atmosphere though.
my crashes each time had to do with a 32 bit third party plug in.

X2a producer 64-bit.

Been pretty solid for me, though it has crashed a few times during normal use.

Lately it has crashed several times when exiting the program.

Now time cursor has bugs in several places.

Recently upgraded from X1d to X2a (Prod.), and have been putting it to the test.
Running on a Win 7 64-bit machine that does a lot of multi-purpose stuff, and I still see no "quirks" or crashes.
So far I would have to put it somewhere between "Mostly Stable" and "Rock Solid", 'tho I am sure my day will come....

"Somewhat quirky" and "Mostly stable," if there's any difference between them.

LOL, I know. It's along the same lines as mostly sunny and partially cloudy.


@ Chuck - I run a full 64-bit environment. I do have a few plugs that are 32-bit but have never had any issues regarding that.
I personally believe that most of my 'quirks' are more PC related than anything.


Like today, I though I was going to record a few grooves for Keni but for some reason my MIDI seems to be acting up.
Once again, when I record some MIDI info it plays back as if I've triggered every sound in the drum brain (I know, oxy-moron ) and a few sounds that I don't even Know I have.
I check the PRV and what I've played is there. Nothing more, nothing less.


Sometimes a reboot fixes it and sometimes just switching to a different project for a while works too. Sometimes I just give up, head over to the Girlfriends for a few days then come back and all is well.


That's 'somewhat quirkey'.


Our good friend/guru  Danny suggested I try running 32-bit. He said that seems to run better on his setup.


X2 32-bit is just finishing up then comes the task of installing and registering the 32-bit versions of my plug-ins, drivers and such.


Apologies to Keni. I'm working on it buddy and you'll be receiving some grooves as they come off the press.
Thanks for your patience. I know there's no big rush but I'd still like to get something sent out ASAP.


Mike     

joakes : " no 32 bit plugs that I know of (I deliberately um-installed what 3rd party plugs I had that were 32 bits. I trust Sonar didn't install me any ....)"

You are aware that all (?) Sonar plugins (not synths) are 32-bit ?

Rock solid < here > Mostly stable 

Regards,

Windows 8 x64 here, 

Mostly stable, but I'm having a nightmare with screensets causing audio dropouts when changing and also taking nearly 10 seconds to change to the main screenset (#1) from any others. Incredibly frustrating. 

I hope you're right, John, but I don't think you are :-)

My research shows the Sonitus plugins being re-released by Cakewalk in 2004. (there's a lot of really old stuff in Sonar).
I doubt plugins would have been 64-bit back then.

As for the xxx-64 plugins, they're (apparently) 32-bit plugins with 64-bit internal processing, which explains the 64.

Please, someone, prove me wrong.

Been a user since the ancient days, up until the latest release of X2 it's been rock solid. Since than I hate to say it's somewhere between somewhat quirky and unusable, even to the point where I'm now checking out Studio One.  I've done the bug report thing, but I'm beaten down. I just want a mostly solid product.  Don't know if Studio One is solid but I'm looking for possible alternatives. Thanks

Paul P


I hope you're right, John, but I don't think you are :-)

My research shows the Sonitus plugins being re-released by Cakewalk in 2004. (there's a lot of really old stuff in Sonar).
I doubt plugins would have been 64-bit back then.

As for the xxx-64 plugins, they're (apparently) 32-bit plugins with 64-bit internal processing, which explains the 64.

Please, someone, prove me wrong.

The manual lists which are 32 bit only. Keep in mind that if its a VST and it is not loaded under bitbrige it is a 64 bit VST. If it is a DX plugin to run in Sonar 64 bits it has to also be 64 bits. 

I think you are referring to the acquisition and promotion of the Sonitus plugins. They have been available as VST for purchase but they are DX for the bundled plugins with Sonar.

All you have to do is look in your folders and see where they have been placed. 64 bit plugins will have been placed in the 64 bit program folder. 

Paul P


Thanks for the clarifications John. This is good news to me, though I'm not sure how it squares with other stuff I've read.

For example, maybe the xxx-64 were updated at some point ?
They certainly now have a nice big 64 tacked on the end of their filenames.

I have been wondering how they could be running without bitbridge.

Apologies to all for introducing confusion into this thread.

Because you have grace you have nothing to apologize for. It is very confusing and has been for many years. 

All the plugins are full 64 bit that come with Sonar except those I mentioned and the ones they brought over from Project 5. The Project 5 plugins are all DX or DXI and wont show up in 64 bit Sonar anyway.

However that is not to say that all 64 bit plugins are 64 bit internally. Some are 32 bit internal. One can find out in X2 by looking at the FX bin and seeing the hash marks at the bottom. 2 mean 32 bits 4 mean 64 bits.

Win 8/ 64bit/ no 32 bit plugins
Using WDM/KS with better performance than ASIO on my interfaces
 
Rock Solid
 
Glen

Halfway between mostly stabl;e and Rock Soild for me. It does not crash for me but there are some glitchy things that sometimes happen- disappearing now time bar, ProChannel oddities etc.

Maybe it's too early to say (only 10 days), but X2 seems to be stable for me so far.  On the other hand, it crashes after closing any project that contains SampleTank.  However this is not something specific to X2, as I was having the same issue before X2.

I have been mostly using the 32-bit version, as I am currently working on some old projects.

Window 8 64 bit, Sonar X2a

Only 1 crash in 6 months. Wasn't really doing anything out of the ordinary. Went to add a midi track and gone, no message or anything.