Tenca
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Staff
In Staff I guess that there is a way, to change the the Sharps to Flats, in a Cloned track that is muted. That way your not changing the sound of the music, but using that track just to read the note's in a transposed to Eb Sax, to read the staff in that view to play the melody. Q is how do i change the Sharps to Flats in one track after transposing for Eb Sax? Thank you
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noynekker
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Tenca, your question exposes the limitations of Sonars staff view. Enharmonic equivalents are not easy to set. The only way I know of is to right click on a staff view note, and actually type in the enharmonic equivalent in Note Properties. Unfortunately, you can only do this one note at a time, so it's tedious work to do it for a whole track. To get Flats you would have to change the project key signature to a "Flat" key, but then they wouldn't really "display" It would be most ideal to use the "Process - Find / Change" feature FOR EXAMPLE: to find all the D#'s . . . and simply replace them with Eb's . . . but that doesn't work, and you can't type it in Event Inspector either. Sonar staff view note display is tied to the project key signature. Only a proper notation based software will get what you're asking for.
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Susan G
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Re: Staff
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☄ Helpfulby noynekker 2016/01/30 01:13:34
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Tenca, your question exposes the limitations of Sonars staff view. Enharmonic equivalents are not easy to set.
The only way I know of is to right click on a staff view note, and actually type in the enharmonic equivalent in Note Properties. Unfortunately, you can only do this one note at a time, so it's tedious work to do it for a whole track.
To get Flats you would have to change the project key signature to a "Flat" key, but then they wouldn't really "display"
It would be most ideal to use the "Process - Find / Change" feature FOR EXAMPLE: to find all the D#'s . . . and simply replace them with Eb's . . . but that doesn't work, and you can't type it in Event Inspector either. Sonar staff view note display is tied to the project key signature. Only a proper notation based software will get what you're asking for.
Hi Tenca/noynekker- Unless something's changed since I last did this, you can set enharmonic equivalents like this: Using the D# to Eb example- 1. Select the MIDI track(s) you want to process. No need to select individual notes. 2. Bring up the Process - Find/Change window. 3. Clear all the check boxes (The button is "None", IIRC) 4. Enter "D#?" in the Search For box and click OK. 5. Enter "Eb?" in the Replace With or whatever-it's-called box and click OK. The "?" is so all octaves are covered in the search/replace. If you want only a specific octave, you can enter that by number instead. I can't run SONAR right now, so the window/button names might not be exact, but this has always worked for me. -Susan
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Re: Staff
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☄ Helpfulby noynekker 2016/01/30 01:13:40
EDIT: OOPS! Looks like Susan beat me to it.  Tenca, Suggest you read through the page in the Sonar help file section: Notation and lyrics > Basic music editing > Using enharmonic spellings. As has been already mentioned in a previous post, all staves in the Sonar Staff view share the same key signature. However, enharmonic spellings can be globally changed on a track for single note spellings (Ex: change all D#'s to Eb). I tested the following procedure using the "Manchester Update 1 (21.12.00.36)" release of Sonar Platinum. 1. Select the track that contains the notes that require enharmonic spelling changes. 2. Run the Process > Find/Change... menu option. 3. Click the None button to clear the Event Filter - Search dialog. 4. Click the Note checkbox and enter the note spelling you want to change followed by a question mark ("?") wild card in the Min and Max edit boxes. [Example: D# ?] 5. Click OK. 6. Enter the new enharmonic spelling [Example: Eb ?] in Min and Max edit boxes of the Event Filter - Replace dialog. 7. Click OK. 8. Repeat steps 1 to 7 for any additional note spelling changes. Result: All notes in all octaves with a D# spelling change to Eb on the selected track. Hope this helps, -- Ron
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noynekker
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SquireBum and Susan . . . Thank you for this ! . . . I've tried this many times, but never got it to work, your detailed instructions made me realize the step I was missing . . . I was trying FOR EXAMPLE: Find D#5? . . . Replace with Eb5? . . . but you really need to enter it as Find D#? . . . Replace with Eb?.
Thank you so much, I'll use this a lot., now that I know it's possible, and for the OP, Tenca, I think this is the solution you are looking for.
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Susan G
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SquireBum and Susan . . . Thank you for this ! . . . I've tried this many times, but never got it to work, your detailed instructions made me realize the step I was missing . . . I was trying FOR EXAMPLE: Find D#5? . . . Replace with Eb5? . . . but you really need to enter it as Find D#? . . . Replace with Eb?.
Thank you so much, I'll use this a lot., now that I know it's possible, and for the OP, Tenca, I think this is the solution you are looking for.
Hi noynekker- You're more than welcome ! Hope Tenca checks back and sees this as well. -Susan
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I don't use Staff view much these days, but I vaguely recall that the presentation of enharmonics follows the pattern of the key signature set at that point. So use Project - Insert Meter/Key Change on the track in question before the notes you are interested in and choose a key that has the notes the way you want to see them. I don't think Sonar cares whether the track is muted or not.
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Snehankur
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The Question mark solved the question !!
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