'Start it Again'

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2013/03/20 20:57:47 (permalink)

'Start it Again'


Another new one - going for a kind of epic melodic pop rock thing. I've put a bit of work into the layering of sounds on this. The bass gtr performance probably needs some work. More going on than most of my previous tunes, so a challenge for my limited mixing skills!

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    Lynn
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/21 12:26:59 (permalink)
    This song has a fresh approach to what I'm used to hearing on this forum.  Your arrangement and instrumentation work very well, and your use of reverb doesn't sound like a cliche, but adds depth to the overall sound.  All in all, very creative.  BTW, did you know there was a band called Sparks in the early days of MTV?

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/21 13:05:01 (permalink)
    Outstanding. Really enjoyed that. I will need to listen to this again later to comment more on the mix.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/22 10:48:40 (permalink)
    Really nice song.  At first I didn't get the mix (10 seconds :-)) then I really got into it.  If I had to say anything I would say maybe a tad less vocal reverb but the more I listen the more it fits perfectly so I won't suggest anything mixwise.  Just a very nioce tune and performance.  Oh, the bass seems to fit the song, I wouldn't change that at all.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/23 18:57:48 (permalink)
    Excellent. Strong track all around...dig your vocals especially. Lee
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/23 19:31:23 (permalink)
    Sounds really good!  Nice vibe.  Nice mix too.  Love the different guitar textures.  And the arrangment is very well done, you build everything very nicely. 

    The only thing for me would be to tighten the panning on the drums - the HH seems too far right.  The other thing is when the Kick does that triplet thing with the voice when the vocal start coming in, it sounds kind of weird.  I'd just keep the kick simple, or just stop while the voice comes in.
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/23 22:42:04 (permalink)
    I felt a bit like I was back in the '80's listening to this - maybe the Fix - someone like that. I really enjoyed this - the mix is really good - the vocals are outstanding - overall - just a really good tune.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/25 06:31:54 (permalink)
    Thanks for those comments guys.

    Lynn - yeah I know Sparks (I remember they used to scare me when I was a kid!), but I figured they wouldn't mind if I borrowed their name!

    evadianepug - i'll try a mix with less vocal reverb. I don't intend to mess with the bassline too much, just the precision in places I wasn't happy with, and maybe one or two of the fills I thought could find a bit more / clearer melodic direction

    guitartrek - thanks for those comments. I'l try your suggestion on the kick, and the panning on the drums

    Cheers all
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/25 17:01:55 (permalink)
    This has a definite 80's vibe. One band that comes to mind are "The Chameleons" 

    I liked this a lot.

    The recording and mix are excellent and you have the perfect voice for this genre.

    You're very talented as this track fully demonstrates.

    Great piece of work all-round.
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/27 08:26:16 (permalink)
    Nice work. I like the vocal track which suits the song really well. The guitar mix is sweet.. Great track :-)

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/27 12:07:19 (permalink)
    Love the chorus on this song, it really soars. I liked the bass line, seemed to fit nicely and break out of the box occasionally.

     
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/30 14:57:52 (permalink)
    Thanks for sharing 

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/30 15:38:08 (permalink)
    Reminds me of the big U2 sound, where the reverb wash is an integral part of the big sound. Lovely music, nice chord progressions.

    The lead vocalist has great expression--but there's a lot to contend with in this complex mix.

    I'm trying to think of ways to fatten up the lead vocal, perhaps right where the chorus comes in the first time.

    Have you thought about maybe double-tracking? Or a short slapback echo on the vocal track, or a subtle chorusing plugin? Something to give the vocal track the weight and presence to keep up with the wonderful band sound.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/03/31 14:05:21 (permalink)
    I like the vocals not crazy bout the intense reverb. I think it would be more effective to use echo more sparingly during the verses. The balance of the instruments is good. Perhaps the use of dynamics ( overall level ) as the song progresses would be a nice addition. 

    Really nice tune, certainly has that 80's vibe to it. Performances are all good as well as the final mix. Enjoyed the listen.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/04/01 08:16:48 (permalink)
    Liked this a lot. Just downloaded so I can have a proper listen. :)
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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/04/01 09:02:41 (permalink)
    Great track!  It has a very nice hook on the chorus.  Very nice arrangement and it really shows you put some work on it.  On the vocals I would keep the echo in the bridge but reduce it a bit on the verse.  

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/04/02 17:46:45 (permalink)
    Very different but nicely done. Seems to be a few clitches hear and there or maybe it's just me, but over all a great sound and nice vocals. Nice guitar work and sound.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/04/02 21:30:57 (permalink)
    I heard U2 also. Vox sound very Sting-like. Mix seems a bit left side heavy but it works. Would be nice to hear some of that rhythm guitar on the right along with the left.

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    Re:'Start it Again' 2013/04/06 05:43:59 (permalink)
    Thanks for all these comments guys!
    Blipp - you're very kind - I'll have to check the Chameleons out. Not sure I was really after an '80s vibe, so it's interesting to hear those comparisons. 

    I'm not really a huge fan of '80s music generally, but as I grew up in the '80s it's probably stuck in my subconscious! (There are exceptions, eg i think Talk Talk went on to be one of the most innovative bands in history). I think I was aiming here for a big sound but with a modern feel. I'll have to figure if there's something I can do to make it less '80s! British indie band Doves do a lot of big productions, euphoric / epic sounds, with liberal
    use of delay and reverb type effects but make it sound modern, it's that kind of sonic approach I was aiming for here. This has got me thinking I maybe made some wrong turns somewhere....


    aumente - cheers man
    jamesg - thanks - the soaring chorus was definitely what I was after here
    wookeei - thanks for listening
    ultimatemusicsnob - thanks - I take on board those comments. I'll have a play around with those vocals and see what I can do to fatten them up
    tap - cheers, yeah, seem like there's a few thinking the 'verb is too heavy in the verses
    paulo - thanks for listening
    scottytunes - thanks. I'd not noticed the panning issue - thanks for flagging it. I'll review when I go back to it.


    Really appreciate all that feedback. I've needed a break from this one but I'll go back soon and do some more work on it with all those comments in mind and re-post.






    post edited by Spark - 2013/04/06 05:46:13
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