Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :(

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2011/08/06 03:11:00 (permalink)

Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :(

I'm trying to record on my laptop, with my setup and specs listed below:
Cakewalk 8 Producer edition
Rode NT2-a condenser mic
USB Dual Preamp
Realtek HD Audio sound card
Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.53 GHz
6 MB of ram
Running Windows 7

As the topic suggests, I'm having trouble with static either during the recording or play back, I'm not really sure..I had to change the settings under Audio to MME 32-bit to work with my USB preamp. The biggest concern that I can think of is the sound card, which is stock. Thing is, I really don't know much about being able to record vocals efficiently, so I need some more input from anyone that would be willing to spare me a little bit of their time to help me out..any type of feedback would be greatly appreciated.

I wanted to record some vocals, so I got my hands on a mic. Then I had to get a preamp. Afterwards, I had to invest in software. When the static's not bad, I'm really satisfied with the sound and  I see great potential in future projects. I've been running around trying to find the best values that I could, knowing nothing about this recording business. I'm just a singer who wants to be able to record vocals efficiently to share with the rest of the world, y'know? It's been one thing after another, and I just don't know where to go next and at this point I'm just dumbfounded. Really just looking for any kind of guidance at this point.
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    EasTexGuy
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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 07:59:42 (permalink)
    Not sure of what you've got there mate. Smarter ppl will need to know some specifics to give you sound advice. However, I had a similar problem with static and like you, beat my head senseless. Turns out it was nothing more than a loose (not snug) connection of the usb cable plugged into my Lexicon interface. Fixed that with a little shim-job and all's good. If that's not your issue... good luck with ppl who can do you better

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 08:37:05 (permalink)
    what is the "USB preamp" - we need a manufacturer and model number.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 10:59:20 (permalink)
    There seems to be a general agreement on this Forum that the Realtek drivers just don't cut it.  There are a lot of people here who will tell you that the first thing you should consider is  to buy and use a proper recording interface instead of the Realtek.  This is good advice that you will want to follow eventually, but you can do a few things to improve your experience in the shorter term that will provide satisfactory results.
     
    Realtek and MME seems to be about the worst possible combination that will 'kindof' work.  There is a driver wrapper that was specifically written for Realtek drivers that will let you use the ASIO mode with your existing hardware and get much better results than you are currently experiencing.  Check out ASIO4ALL (Google it) - it is a free ASIO interface that will make things work a lot better for you.  However, this is a bit of a bandaid approach and you will want a better answer in another six months or a year.
     
    Be very careful that you are not overdriving your siginal.  If you are in the red your siginal will be chopped and cause dropouts.  Try backing off on all of your levels - then slowly turn things up one-at-a-time until you know what your clean sound levels are.  This isn't magnetic tape that just gets saturated if you drive things too high, going to 0dB causes the sound to crash and burn.
     
     
     

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 11:29:36 (permalink)
    gcolbert - a "usb preamp" is going to be a USB soundcard of some kind - that's why I think we need to know what he has before offering too much advice.  I would not recommend ASIO4ALL for most "usb preamps" as he calls it.  there are a few, however, which will require it, but most will have their own ASIO drivers.

    the rest of your advice, however, is spot on.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 14:28:42 (permalink)
    The preamp is made by ART. I'm not sure of the capabilities of this thing, but it seems very ordinary. It was what the salesperson at Guitar Center recommended me when I said I was looking for a preamp on a budget. This link is what the preamp looks like:

    http://www.musiciansfrien...ier-computer-interface

    I wish I knew more about this kind of thing, but that's all I can say about this preamp. Let me know if it poses a problem with the type of recording I want to do. In the meantime, I'll check out more about ASIO4ALL in the meantime.
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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 14:46:07 (permalink)
    ok - looks like it IS just a preamp.  I guess the only reason it has a USB port is to provide power.  it's not a soundcard.

    therefore I would say that you have a device which really doesn't do you very much good.  Never trust GC sales drones.  he did sell you exactly what you asked for - a preamp.  but actually what you NEED is a soundcard or "sound interface" or "audio interface" whatever you want to call it - they're all the same thing.  you need a USB, PCI, PCIe or Firewire device which acts as a soundcard.

    since you are using the ART preamp and still using your realtek onboard soundcard then you have a decent preamp, but you still have the crappy soundcard and its crappy drivers.

    NOW I would say that gcolbert's advice about ASIO4ALL is correct.  but I would also recommend that you take the ART back to GC and exchange it for a USB SOUNDCARD, not just a PREAMP.  check my website for USB SOUNDCARD RECOMMENDATIONS.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 15:24:12 (permalink)
    When I fist started trying to learn about recording, I bought a proper sound card and everything that I need to do a good job, I thought. I had this constant static when recording or playing back. It was driving me nuts. Then one weekend I started messing about in the morning and no static. Wow! This is great, I thought, only for it to return that night. After some detective work I found my problem was a dimmer switch on a light in the room I was working in. I would also suggest that you try plugging things into a different outlet to see if the static stops. Dimmer switches, appliances of all kinds, if they are inline with your sound equipment can cause grief.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 15:26:18 (permalink)
    I see! I think I will follow up on your recommendations. I'm on a bit of a budget (150ish, possibly closer to 200 if pushed) and I'm checking out your site now. These sound cards will serve as both a preamp and sound card, then? Even with my laptop's cruddy Realtek, will this be able to compensate for that?

    On your site I'm looking at the ones that are USB and have phantom power. I'm looking at the Lexicon Lambda, Lexicon Omega, Presonus audiobox USB, and so on with those units that have the price range and phantom power I'm looking for. Do you have any recommendations as to what stands out really well?

    Great site by the way. Very informative. I'll keep this in my bookmarks and use it for future reference if I ever look to get upgrades.
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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 17:17:52 (permalink)
    yes, the USB soundcards typically have at least one, sometimes more preamps as well.  you would use the USB soundcard INSTEAD of the realtek.  you will be able to choose the USB soundcard instead of the realtek in Sonar.

    out of the one's youve listed I know that there are many users on these forums using all of those.  any of them would be fine, probably.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 19:49:17 (permalink)
    The Art is a ASIO audio interface, go download and instal the drivers from the web site.

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    Re:Static noise when recording..please help a noob! :( 2011/08/06 20:32:41 (permalink)
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    The Art is a ASIO audio interface, go download and instal the drivers from the web site.

    Good call!
     
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