Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface?

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2014/03/21 10:02:03 (permalink)

Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface?

I am considering purchasing the UR-44.  Here's a linkL
http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_series/models/ur44.html
 
I really like the 6 inputs, four outputs, two separate headphone mixes, Zero latency monitoring with effects, iPad compatible along with PC, clip lights on mic channel inputs, separate customizable line outs, and the specs seem very good.
 
I am comparing to the Presonus 44VSL.  Both are the same price.
 
Any thoughts?
 
Thanks.
 
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    thomasabarnes
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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/03/23 03:57:08 (permalink)
    Looks like a real good unit at a bargain price ($300,) and jim Roseberry has vouched for it having good drivers for low latency performance. I'll be looking forward to your review of the unit when you get it. I hope you mention if using the included Cubase AI software requires a dongle or any other type of hardware based copy protection scheme.
    post edited by thomasabarnes - 2014/03/23 03:59:02


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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/06 23:26:49 (permalink)
    Update:  
    I have integrated my new UR-44 into my home-based system.  I have to return the unit due to the hi-z inputs being defective.  However, the other features are working well.  Here is what I get:
     
    1.  6 inputs (4 mic pres, 2 line level).
    2.  Zero-latency using Steinberg's DSP mixer that has comp, EQ, reverb, and guitar amp effects that can be used for monitor only or printed.
    3.  Very clean mic pres from Yamaha.  The best I have experienced so far. 
    4.  Very solid interface with Sonar X3 and Studio One.
    5.  Very solid interface with my iPad 2 running both Auria (24bit 96hz with video sync options) and Cubasis.
    6.  Steinberg Cubase AI (free) that I loaded on my laptop.  The UR-44 works perfectly with it.
    7.  Two independent headphone mix outputs.
    8.  The UR-44 allows me to use it with Camtasia so that I can record audio while capturing desktop videos for training purposes.
    I now have the capability to record live audio with my iPad or laptop with 4 xlr inputs that are super clean.
    On my regular PC, the UR-44 is easy to use and the headphone output level is just loud enough where I don't need an external headphone amp.  
     
    So all this for $299.00 from Sweetwater on a no interest charge for 36 months with a 2 year warranty.
     
    Thought this was something some of you would be interested in.
     
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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/11 02:40:00 (permalink)
    "Steinberg Cubase AI (free) that I loaded on my laptop."
     
    Thanks for the report.
     
    So, you didn't have to use an iLok or some dongle to use the Cubase AI software?


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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/11 11:09:16 (permalink)
    You have to install the elicencer.  which is the software version. the computer has to been on line , you enter the activation code and they send you a email with a registration code. 

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/11 12:51:02 (permalink)
    I like mine but it doesn't like fluorescent lights I think. The top does make a good cowbell in a pinch!

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/11 13:29:47 (permalink)
    Cactus Music
    You have to install the elicencer.  which is the software version. the computer has to been on line , you enter the activation code and they send you a email with a registration code. 




     
    Thanks for the info, Cactus Music.


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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/11 15:12:37 (permalink)
    The hassle is, without the usb dongle, every time you want to re install you have to contact customer support for a new registration code. I have both Cubase 5LE and Wave Lab elements which both use the software elicence. The higher end products require the USB dongle. I can buy a dongle to separately from any retailer and that solves the re install issue forever. Cubase LE is pretty cool and I find it usefull for certain tasks it does that Sonar cannot do. 

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/13 21:13:41 (permalink)
    thomasabarnes
    Looks like a real good unit at a bargain price ($300,) and jim Roseberry has vouched for it having good drivers for low latency performance. I'll be looking forward to your review of the unit when you get it. I hope you mention if using the included Cubase AI software requires a dongle or any other type of hardware based copy protection scheme.




    UPDATE: I have been playing with the UR-44 in X3, S1, and now my iPad using Cubasis.  I do get all outputs of the UR-44 as inputs.  There seems to be plenty of output level gain on the master volume knob on the unit.  I am driving my Equator D5's and I don't even get up to 12 o'clock on the knob. 
     
    The latency free DSP mixer works well and I am learning how to set it of for both the iPad and PC.  It can save setup presets to help make that easy.  Overall, this is a great unit.  I know need to get the replacement due to some bad mic pre inputs.  
     
     

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/13 23:04:18 (permalink)
    Mine has been working great.  Other than needing balanced lines for my (temporary) wiring from the unit to my active speakers (I'll go thru a monitor router, as I'm doing a total studio re-wire), it has been fine.  I'd take a smidge more on the headphones out, but it's been OK actually. 
    One thing I've noticed is with the volume ALL the way down, there still is some crosstalk making it to the speakers.... WAAAY down...like maybe 80dB, but it's there.
    Haven't put the pres thru any real use yet.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/14 12:05:55 (permalink)
    For your balanced cables, are you using stereo 1/4" cables or xlr?

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/14 13:16:56 (permalink)
    xlr cable with an adapter for 1/4 (trs) to XLR at the Steinberg side.
    I was having very bad interference, which I'm guessing was the video, flourescent lighting I had on.  Went completely away when I swapped cables.  StudioCat suggested better USB cables if having problems as well.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/04/14 13:19:01 (permalink)
    btw, I just used some mic cables, which are probably way to light a gauge wire, but seemed to be OK.
     

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/02 13:34:14 (permalink)
    I received a replacement unit from Sweetwater (those guys have been excellent at service and support and I highly recommend them.  Their prices are great and they have a 2 year warranty).  
    All mic pres are good.  I am getting a pop sound when turning the unit on and off.  Steinberg says that is normal and that is why they recommend turning speakers on last when turning the UR44 on and then turn the speakers off first when turning the UR44 off.  Makes sense.  
     
    The unit is performing great with Sonar X3, Studio One 2.6, Cubase AI 7, Cubasis 1.7, and Auria.  
    I can highly recommend this unit.
     
    Rimshot
     
     

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/04 01:44:42 (permalink)
    Mine sounds OK, but I'm finding the mic pres don't really have enough clean gain.  I'm trying to use a lower output RE-20 dynamic, and I have to crank the pre just about all the way up. I've experimented trying to "make up" with their little built in channel strip, but it just adds noise really instead of clean gain.  Wonder if a Cloudlifter CL-1 would help.... at half the price of the UR-44!
     
    I know there wouldn't be enough for a SM7 or a low output ribbon too.  Took me awhile to find the "loopback" so my screen capture could record system audio..  but works good.  Only nit is I'm guessing it only has about 45-50dB of clean gain.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/04 08:22:51 (permalink)
    I have read that using an SM7 generally takes alot of mic pre gain to get it going.  I use a B1, SM57, SM58, and Rhodes M5 mics without any gain problem at all.  The Yamaha mic pres are super clean.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/04 10:24:11 (permalink)
    I've tried a 57 and a 58 and had to crank them up almost all the way too...just for narration and being about 6 inches from the mic.  No way I can get the peak lights to light up, with just a voice, unless I'm screaming loud.  Otherwise, I'm just starting to get a waveform in Sonar...A good 30dB down I would guess.  I'm going to experiment more with other pres going into the UR44 line ins.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/05 21:30:16 (permalink)
    In our broadcast studio I have to run our RE27 through a DBX channel strip with 50 dB of gain before it goes into the UR-44 I just got for it.  The D-pre's sound great but they are of little use above 50 dB.  The same could be said of most interface pres.  The DBX was much quieter at the higher gain settings, so the staging was much quieter with the channel strip carrying all the load.  

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/05 21:57:17 (permalink)
    Yeah...I plugged a RE-20 into another pre...actually a cheapie Yamaha mixer...and barely turned it up to keep the inherent noise down on that pre.  Then the UR-44 only had to be turned half way up and the levels were great.  I ran ALL balanced lines, and that helped keep things quiet.  I do quite a bit of narration, so I think I'll be experimenting more with a gate or expander as well with this newer setup.
    Yes...I agree...I got what I guessed to be about 45-50dB of gain...then the "ocean" became quite apparent....plus I ran out of rotation on my gain knob ;-D

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2014/05/05 21:58:29 (permalink)
    BTW...I've had a pile of old Echo products.  Their pres were nice....my latest being a 3G... but no gain.  Ribbons could definitely NOT be used.
     So I agree that probably many lower priced pres on audio interfaces won't cut it.

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2016/01/10 20:36:34 (permalink)
    Rimshot
    I am considering purchasing the UR-44.  Here's a linkL
    http://www.steinberg.net/en/products/audio_interfaces/ur_series/models/ur44.html
     
    I really like the 6 inputs, four outputs, two separate headphone mixes, Zero latency monitoring with effects, iPad compatible along with PC, clip lights on mic channel inputs, separate customizable line outs, and the specs seem very good.
     
    I am comparing to the Presonus 44VSL.  Both are the same price.
     
    Any thoughts?
     
    Thanks.
     
    Rimshot




     
     
    Hi Rim - 
     
    Just singing praises of the UR44 here
     
    I've been researching the ur44 and came across a few cakewalk threads. I got mine from sweetwater the other day and just ran a band rehearsal with it. I needed it for the four out puts and a to give the drummer a headphone mix in a click in sonar. (We're an 80's band without a keyboard player so yes we using a backing track with a click and some harmonies (GASP the horror)
     
    anyway - I was using a Tascam us-1641 16 ins and 4 outs  but didn't need to lug around all that around and it doesn't have a dsp and drummer not always happy with mix in his head monitors - 
     
     
    UR44 with the dsp -- Solved all. 
     
    Very nice interface. Plus I do regular business with Sweetwater and my agent and I have a good business relationship - you get the 2 year warranty as you stated in other threads and - he sometimes knocks cash off the price. 
     
    The install of the drivers and dsp went very smooth due to Rimshots threads and inputs on the subject - it was all easy 
     
    I passed on installing of the Cubasis 1 or LE or whatever they are calling it. Heck I am still on SonarX2 -- it all works fine for my needs.  
     
     
    this is the typoe of stuff I need the UR44 for playing live - video page  thats us http://riskybusiness.us/video
     
    Thanks Rimshot!! 
     
     
     
     
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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2016/01/10 22:25:19 (permalink)
    Hey Paul. I am so happy to hear you like the UR44!
    It really has some great features and sounds great as well. 
    I love the direct mixing and EFX. They designed it really well IMO.
    I will check out the link above. 
     
    Jimmy

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    Re: Steinberg UR-44 USB Interface? 2016/01/12 10:37:28 (permalink)
    Rimshot
    I have read that using an SM7 generally takes alot of mic pre gain to get it going.  I use a B1, SM57, SM58, and Rhodes M5 mics without any gain problem at all.  The Yamaha mic pres are super clean.




    +1
     
    The SM7 (along with the RE20) are notorious for needing a LOT of gain.  The vast majority of mics work just fine with the URXX pres.  These are the D-Pres Yamaha puts in their mixers and they are very nice indeed.
     
    Anyone with a SM7 or RE20 (or any mic with that needs a lot of gain) should invest in a Cloudlifter, which adds gobs of clean gain and allow the mics to be used with any pre.
     
    In fact, it's such a popular solution that Sweetwater actually sells the Cloudlifter bundled with mics like the RE20.

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