AdamGrossmanLG
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Step Sequencer Values
Hello, I was wondering if there is anyway to dial these in a bit more accurately. I have exact value (1-127) amounts I want for each note, but using the draw tool is extremely difficult. I would like to just punch in the value on each bar. Is there something I am missing?  Thank You, Adam
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 05:43:00
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Hold down the CTRL key, double-click a note and enter the desired velocity value.
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AdamGrossmanLG
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 15:33:25
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that works for velocity, however this is not for velocity.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 15:57:23
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I would suggest not getting too hung up about Modulation varying by 2-3 from your target. Most likely it won't even be detectable in the context of a full mix, and, if anything, the variation will add a little 'life' to the part.
I try not to pay to much attention to numeric values except in the case that there's some threshold effect where the sound changes drastically from one value to the next (e.g. sampled instruments with too few velocity layers).
Getting too caught up in numeric precision can kill both creativity and productivity.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 18:04:59
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I would suggest not getting too hung up about Modulation varying by 2-3 from your target. Most likely it won't even be detectable in the context of a full mix, and, if anything, the variation will add a little 'life' to the part.
I try not to pay to much attention to numeric values except in the case that there's some threshold effect where the sound changes drastically from one value to the next (e.g. sampled instruments with too few velocity layers).
Getting too caught up in numeric precision can kill both creativity and productivity.
you would be surprised how much 1 digit could make depending on the synth patch. I also am not looking for it to have life, it is mechanical type synth pop. I want it to be exactly perfect. Is there a way to do this in the step sequencer?
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 18:19:18
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I want it to be exactly perfect.
And here lies the real problem.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 18:20:57
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i find it harder to use the draw tool for every 16th note. I would rather just plug in some numbers.
if its not possible, then its not possible.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 19:24:02
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If you want super precision, Step Sequencer modulation values can be edited in the Event List. As far as the Event List is concerned, the Step Sequencer is just another group of MIDI data.
Just don't be confused by the Event List "self editing," because it interprets MIDI continuous controller data properly. For example, if you enter several Controller 74 events in a row with the same value, the Event List will show only the first one because a continuous controller represents only one value until changed.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 19:40:39
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I too will sometimes edit values for midi events, through the event list, by selecting the desired midi track, then positioning the Now Marker at or near the correct placement on the time line, and then opening up View>Event List and I will be close to exactly where I need to make the edits. Doing it this way saves me a bunch of time in positioning to the correct data needing editing.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 20:33:33
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Anderton
If you want super precision, Step Sequencer modulation values can be edited in the Event List. As far as the Event List is concerned, the Step Sequencer is just another group of MIDI data.
Just don't be confused by the Event List "self editing," because it interprets MIDI continuous controller data properly. For example, if you enter several Controller 74 events in a row with the same value, the Event List will show only the first one because a continuous controller represents only one value until changed.
too cumbersome. Ill buy B-Step Sequencer for $49 since the built in was is kind of basic.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 21:17:10
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Oh well, at least the 15 minutes I spent creating a project and working with the SS to see if there was something that would allow entering precise numbers wasn't entirely wasted...I never knew it talked to the event list. I can actually think of several ways this could be useful.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 21:55:27
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Anderton
Oh well, at least the 15 minutes I spent creating a project and working with the SS to see if there was something that would allow entering precise numbers wasn't entirely wasted...I never knew it talked to the event list. I can actually think of several ways this could be useful.
i do appreciate it, but it to be honest, its a very light-weight step sequencer. Compare it to B-step and you will see. thanks for checking though. Happy New Year.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2016/12/31 22:43:34
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Step Sequencer is another composition tool that's long overdue an update.
I wish it would allow several of it's rhythm strips to be open at once, instead of just one.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 01:14:08
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The internal SS was a thorn in my side for a long time, and I ended up getting Geist in response. FXpansion runs some pretty hefty sales on products, so waiting for a Geist 2 sale would be something to consider. Definitely take advantage of the 10-day trial first! Geist (2) is way more than a step sequencer, but the SS functionality is by far the most obvious.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 01:25:52
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What key feature does Giest have that SS would benefit from?
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 01:54:46
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☄ Helpfulby Angelbaby 2017/01/02 11:23:23
Geist's primary purpose is as a SS, so it was not a complementary component for me, but a replacement. Deep down Geist is more what I would consider an EDM DAW, with 8 audio engines, FX banks, sample/slicing/layering capabilities, and the ability to sample audio internally (via its "Spitter" plugin).
On the surface, step sequencer is its most obvious use, but it is far more than that... All engines/patterns can be fired off real-time with MIDI if you want to delve to that level of detail.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 02:17:37
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☄ Helpfulby Angelbaby 2017/01/02 11:23:05
So the SS is just a little more intuitive, but no extra functionality.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 03:52:37
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☄ Helpfulby Kamikaze 2017/01/01 04:09:55
Pretty much. The SS portion is what comes up when it first loads (the pattern tab/page). Even with that you can duplicate patterns to modify one rather than creating another from scratch (up to 24 per engine), then fire them off via MIDI or construct them together on the song tab/page.
The underlying MIDI is very complex, e.g. each engine has its own channel to fire individual pads or patterns, etc. Internally this specific functionality is slick, but using MIDI thru to fire off another VSTi can get painful. It is easier to just use Spitter and sample/slice the other VSTi you wish to fire in most cases, i.e. create a Geist kit from recording samples from the other.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 04:53:56
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 06:49:48
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That thing hurt my brain. I really like the step sequencer pretty much how it is, just some added further flexibility and functionality would be good for me. I particularly like the way you can convert between piano and SS for further editing.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/01 17:03:52
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Anderton
Oh well, at least the 15 minutes I spent creating a project and working with the SS to see if there was something that would allow entering precise numbers wasn't entirely wasted...I never knew it talked to the event list. I can actually think of several ways this could be useful.
i do appreciate it, but it to be honest, its a very light-weight step sequencer. Compare it to B-step and you will see.
The Cakewalk one does 85% of what I need and for the rest I have Geist, so don't really feel the need for another SS. I would caution any potential Geistarians that to get the most out of it for real-time improv, IMHO you need more than a 4-octave keyboard.
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Re: Step Sequencer Values
2017/01/02 00:56:17
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Anderton
I never knew it talked to the event list. I can actually think of several ways this could be useful.
Yes, good to know. I thought SS clips were uneditable outside of SS.
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